Dear Doug,

Thank you for your email.

The registration overlap looks reasonable. Thank you for considering this question.

Best wishes,

Sal

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Douglas N Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:

When you look at SUBJECT_ID_CBF_reg.nii.gz, does it look reasonable? Does it overlay correctly on the T1.mgz?
doug

On 09/14/2014 11:40 PM, Salil Soman wrote:
Thank you Doug.  I am having trouble with extracting statistics using this method.

I am able to use bbregister to get a transformation that registers the PD image of the ASL to the T1. I then used this transformation matrix to register the CBF map for the ASL study into the T1.mgz space. Checking the images, the registration looked reasonable. However, when I try to extract the values from the registered image using the vois from aparc+aseg.mgz, and the FreeSurferColorLUT I get all 0 values.

*The command I ran is:*

mri_segstats --seg $SUBJECTS_DIR/SUBJECT_ID/mri/aparc+aseg.mgz --ctab $FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt --i SUBJECT_ID_CBF_reg.nii.gz --sum SUBJECT_ID_ASL.stats --seg-erode 1

*where SUBJECT_ID_CBF_reg.nii.gz was generated by running:*

mri_vol2vol --mov SUBJECT_ID_CBF.nii.gz --targ T1.mgz --interp nearest --o SUBJECT_ID_CBF_reg.nii.gz --reg SUBJECT_ID.dat --no-save-reg

(and this was run with T1.mgz and SUBJECT_ID_CBF.nii.gz in the same folder).

*for which SUBJECT_ID.dat was generated by running the code:*

bbregister --s SUBJECT_ID --mov SUBJECT_ID_ASL_PD.nii.gz --reg SUBJECT_ID.dat --t1 --init-fsl

Thank you for your consideration of this question.

Best wishes,

Salil Soman, MD, MS




On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Douglas Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:

    yep, you can use it for anything.
    doug


    On 9/14/14 12:52 PM, Salil Soman wrote:
    Dear Doug,

    Thank you again for this email. Do you think it is possible to
    use this method for ASL images as well? If so, how would you
    change the options?

    Best wishes,

    Salil Soman, MD, MS

    On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Douglas Greve
    <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:


        On 5/25/13 1:39 PM, Salil Soman wrote:
        Thank you Doug.

         Just so I am clear - is the anatomical the nifti T1.mgz or
        is it a different file. From your email I gather should do
        the following:

        *1)  Use bbregister to register the lowb image to the
        anatomical. This creates a registration matrix.*

        bbregister -s SUBJECTNAME --mov lowb.nii --initfsl --reg
        register.dat
        That is right, but add --t2 (since it is t2 weighted).

        *2) Use mri_vol2vol and the registration to map the ADC map
        to the anatomical*
        mri_vol2vol --mov lowb.nii --targ $vol --inv --interp nearest --o $vol2diff --reg $outdir/register.dat --no-save-reg
        Use the ADC as the moveable (not lowb, but use the lowb for
        bbregister). The target volume should be the T1.mgz (or any
        conformed volume). The output will be the adc in the
        anatomical space (not sure why you call it vol2diff).
        *3) use mri_segstats to extract the values*
        *mri_segstats*  --seg $SUBJECTS_DIR/SUBJECTNAME/mri/wmparc.mgz --ctab $FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt --i lowb.nii --sum fa.stats
        The input would be the adc volume mapped the anatomical
        space. I would use WMParcStatsLUT.txt or else you'll get a
        billion different areas not represented in wmparc. You may
        also want to add "--seg-erode 1" to erode the segmentations
        by a voxel. This helps to prevent partial voluming.

        doug


        Where lowb.nii is the other MRI tissue sequence I am
        analyzing (e.g. ADC), $vol2diff is the output image of the
        registration, and fa.stats will be my output stats table?

        I suspect there is part of the syntax for these tools I do
        not understand. Also, what input would $vol be?

        Best wishes,

        Sal


        On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Douglas Greve
        <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
        <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:


            Hi Sal, yes you can. Use bbregister to register the lowb
            image to the anatomical. This creates a registration
            matrix. Use mri_vol2vol and the registration to map the
            ADC map to the anatomical, then use mri_segstats to
            extract the values
            doug

            ps. Please post questions to the FS list instead of us
            directly so that others can benefit and it gets
            archived. thanks!



            On 5/25/13 1:03 PM, Salil Soman wrote:

                Dear Dr. Greve,

                Is it possible to register a nonstructural MR
                sequences (e.g. an ADC map) with the aseg.mgz file
                (or aparc+aseg.mgz file, etc) and then, using the
                segmentation from the aseg (or aparc+aseg) file to
                output a mean ADC value for each anatomic area
                segmented?

                Thank you for your time and consideration.

                Best wishes,

                Sal

                Salil Soman, MD, MS




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