You can create a binary mask with mri_surf2vol

anqi wrote:
 I wonder whether there is a way to convert surfaces back to the subject
native space. Thanks!


Anqi Qiu
Center for Imaging Science
The Johns Hopkins University


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:47:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Chacko Cherian <chacko_cherian@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] tkregister2:views mixed up.
To: Doug Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
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Yes,It is perfectly fine with the --regheader optionmwhich means no problem
with geometry info.
But how do I fix the talairach.xfm?

Thanks a lot!

Chacko.
--- Doug Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:

  
I mean to just load the orig.mgz into tkmedit and see if it is 
oriented correctly. Assuming that it is oriented correctly, then it 
sounds like the talairach transform is messed up pretty badly.
When you run
tkregister2, try adding --regheader. This will ignore the info in the 
talairaach.xfm file and force it to use the geometry info. it will 
likely be very far off, but the basic orientation should be ok.

Chacko Cherian wrote:

    
It has the problem in tkmedit,after I load the transform..i checked 
brainmask.img and T1.img after loading the transform and they had 
this
      
problem..The
    
header and geometry info look fine..


--- Doug Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:

 

      
That means that the geometry info in the file is messed up. Where 
did the data come from? Are the dicoms messed up too?

Chacko Cherian wrote:

   

        
No, It has the same problem in tkmedit too.


--- Doug Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:



     

          
Does it view correctly in tkmedit?

Chacko Cherian wrote:

  

       

            
Hello ALL,

Has anybody had trouble with tkregister2..I
         

              
loaded
   

        
    

         

              
the
  

       

            
transform and the coronal and horizontal views
         

              
are
   

        
mixed up.Coronal view of the subject is coupled
    

         

              
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Thanks in advance
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Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:20:04 -0500
From: Doug Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] tkregister2:views mixed up.
To: Chacko Cherian <chacko_cherian@yahoo.com>
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You can start with that one and fix it by hand (which is a hassle). We are
working on ways to make the talairach more robust. BTW, if you run
tkregister2 again after fixing it, you should not include the --regheader as
that will ignore your previous edits.

doug

Chacko Cherian wrote:

  
Yes,It is perfectly fine with the --regheader optionmwhich means no 
problem with geometry info.
But how do I fix the talairach.xfm?

Thanks a lot!

Chacko.
--- Doug Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:

 

    
I mean to just load the orig.mgz into tkmedit and see if it is 
oriented correctly. Assuming that it is oriented correctly, then it 
sounds like the talairach transform is messed up pretty badly.
When you run
tkregister2, try adding --regheader. This will ignore the info in the 
talairaach.xfm file and force it to use the geometry info. it will 
likely be very far off, but the basic orientation should be ok.

Chacko Cherian wrote:

   

      
It has the problem in tkmedit,after I load the transform..i checked 
brainmask.img and T1.img after loading the transform and they had 
this
     

        
problem..The
   

      
header and geometry info look fine..


--- Doug Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:



     

        
That means that the geometry info in the file is messed up. Where 
did the data come from? Are the dicoms messed up too?

Chacko Cherian wrote:

  

       

          
No, It has the same problem in tkmedit too.


--- Doug Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:



    

         

            
Does it view correctly in tkmedit?

Chacko Cherian wrote:

 

      

           

              
Hello ALL,

Has anybody had trouble with tkregister2..I
        

             

                
loaded
  

       

          
   

        

             

                
the
 

      

           

              
transform and the coronal and horizontal views
        

             

                
are
  

       

          
mixed up.Coronal view of the subject is coupled
   

        

             

                
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the horizontal view of the talairach volume.

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Regards,

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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 21:58:56 -0500 (EST)
From: Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] brainmask.mgz problems
To: Catherine Hartley <cate@nyu.edu>
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Hi Cate,

there is a section on the wiki about troubleshooting the skullstripping. 
Try some of those recommendations first (mostly changing the preflooding
height). If the cerebellum is messed up, then the aseg probably won't work
well which can hurt the whole processing stream.

cheers,
Bruce

On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, Catherine Hartley wrote:

  
Hi,

I ran autorecon1 on a group of data consisting of a single set of 
mprage DICOMs per subject, acquired on a Siemens Allegra 3T scanner.  
Several of the brainmask.mgz images had large portions of the 
brainstem and cerebellum removed.  A couple had portions of the neck 
which were not removed.  The talairach transforms looked fine.

A more experiened Freesurfer user suggested that adding control points 
and re-running the intensity normalization might fix this.  I assume 
that I can follow the instructions here,

http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial_2fControlPoints

but that I would need to edit the orig.mgz file and then run
    
autorecon1-cp.
  
Is this correct?

My intended analysis (cortical thickness in PFC regions) does not 
depend upon these flawed regions, but I want to make sure these errors 
aren't indicative of some larger problem.  Also, I know there have 
been issues with gradient warping with the Allegra.  Do these problems 
sound like gradient warping symptoms?

Thanks,
Cate

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