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Hi Doug,

Sorry to email again RE this, but please could I get your advice on my pipeline below. The surface resampling of the filtered_func from native volume to fs_average looks very different to the output from moving from native volume > MNI volume > fs_average. I expected some differences as going via MNI volume will result in some signal loss, but I want to confirm I understood your advice properly. For example, is register.dat an appropriate matrix for moving directly from native volume to fs_average surface?

For reference, this is my interpretation of your earlier suggestion:

I register the filtered_func to the T1 using bbregister with this command:
  • bbregister --s sub-0006 --feat /media/HDD/ICA_SSD_files/GroupICA/PPT6_PreProc.feat/ --init-coreg

I then run the following command to sample the filtered_func to fsaverage surface:

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Best wishes,
Mason

Mason T Wells, MSc

PhD student

School of Optometry and Vision Sciences

& Cardiff University Brain Research

Imaging Centre (CUBRIC), School of Psychology

Cardiff University

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From: freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Mason Wells <WellsMT1@cardiff.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Native volume to fs_average surface
 

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Hi Doug,

If I understand you correctly. I register the filtered_func to the T1 using bbregister with this command:
  • bbregister --s sub-0006 --feat /media/HDD/ICA_SSD_files/GroupICA/PPT6_PreProc.feat/ --init-coreg

I then run the following command to sample the filtered_func to fsaverage surface:
  • mri_vol2surf --mov filtered_func_data.nii.gz --hemi lh --reg reg/freesurfer/register.dat --trgsubject fsaverage --projfrac 0.5 --o lh_func_fsa.mgz
Please could you let me know if you think this is correct?

Best wishes,
Mason

Mason T Wells, MSc

PhD student

School of Optometry and Vision Sciences

& Cardiff University Brain Research

Imaging Centre (CUBRIC), School of Psychology

Cardiff University

Cardiff   

CF24 4HQ

UK

 

EmailWellsMT1@cardiff.ac.uk

Tel: 02920 879628

WebCardiff University webpage

Mason T Wells, MSc

Myfyriwr PhD

Yr Ysgol Optometreg a Gwyddorau’r Golwg

& Canolfan Ymchwil Delweddu’r Ymennydd Prifysgol Caerdydd (CUBRIC), Yr Ysgol Seicoleg

Prifysgol Caerdydd

Heol Maindy

Caerdydd   

CF24 4HQ 

DU

 

E-bostWellsMT1@caerdydd.ac.uk

Ffôn: 02920 879628



From: freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Mason Wells <WellsMT1@cardiff.ac.uk>
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 4:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Native volume to fs_average surface
 

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Hi Doug,

Sorry for the slow reply to this. I am not sure I follow your suggestion. Are you suggesting I register the filtered_func to the T1 with bbregister which results in a reg.lta/dat file? How does one then use this transformation matrix to move from native space to fs_average space? 

Thanks in advance,
Mason

Mason T Wells, MSc

PhD student

School of Optometry and Vision Sciences

& Cardiff University Brain Research

Imaging Centre (CUBRIC), School of Psychology

Cardiff University

Cardiff   

CF24 4HQ

UK

 

EmailWellsMT1@cardiff.ac.uk

Tel: 02920 879628

WebCardiff University webpage

Mason T Wells, MSc

Myfyriwr PhD

Yr Ysgol Optometreg a Gwyddorau’r Golwg

& Canolfan Ymchwil Delweddu’r Ymennydd Prifysgol Caerdydd (CUBRIC), Yr Ysgol Seicoleg

Prifysgol Caerdydd

Heol Maindy

Caerdydd   

CF24 4HQ 

DU

 

E-bostWellsMT1@caerdydd.ac.uk

Ffôn: 02920 879628



From: freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Douglas N. Greve <dgreve@MGH.HARVARD.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 3:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Native volume to fs_average surface
 
use the filtered func data. reg.lta  the output of bbregister (might also be a .dat file). If the output is on fsaverage, then you can use nifit as output. FV will read mgh, mgz, nii, nii.gz, as well as dicom

On 4/19/2021 10:26 AM, Mason Wells wrote:

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Hi Doug,

I have the data both in its native functional space (e.g. filtered_func_data). I also run bbregister so have the transformation matrix to register it to the T1 (e.g. anat2exf.register.dat). Do you suggest running vol2surf on the filtered_func_data file? Also is reg.lta generated by FreeSurfer during recon-all or do I need to generate this file? I would like to end up with the filtered_func_data file on the fs_average surrface, which would require the file format to be .mgh to load this an overlay on Freeview, right? 

Mason T Wells, MSc

PhD student

School of Optometry and Vision Sciences

& Cardiff University Brain Research

Imaging Centre (CUBRIC), School of Psychology

Cardiff University

Cardiff   

CF24 4HQ

UK

 

EmailWellsMT1@cardiff.ac.uk

Tel: 02920 879628

WebCardiff University webpage

Mason T Wells, MSc

Myfyriwr PhD

Yr Ysgol Optometreg a Gwyddorau’r Golwg

& Canolfan Ymchwil Delweddu’r Ymennydd Prifysgol Caerdydd (CUBRIC), Yr Ysgol Seicoleg

Prifysgol Caerdydd

Heol Maindy

Caerdydd   

CF24 4HQ 

DU

 

E-bostWellsMT1@caerdydd.ac.uk

Ffôn: 02920 879628



From: freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Douglas N. Greve <dgreve@MGH.HARVARD.EDU>
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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Native volume to fs_average surface
 
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If you have the data in the native functional space, then just
mri_vol2surf --mov func.nii --hemi rh --reg reg.lta --trgsubject fsaverage --projfrac 0.5 --o rh.func.fsa.mgz


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Hi experts, 

I have some fMRI data that I have pre-processed in Feat. I want to resample a single subject's data to the fs_average surface but unsure of the most optimal way of doing this. At present I am warping the functional data to the MNI brain in the volume (using FSL's applywarp) and then resampling to fs_average using the following command.
  • mri_vol2surf --src filtered_func_MNI.nii --out filtered_func_surf.mgh --hemi rh --mni152reg

My question is whether you think this is the most appropriate approach, and/or if there is way to move directly from native volume to fs_average surface without needing to go via MNI volume?

Best wishes,
Mason 

Mason T Wells, MSc

PhD student

School of Optometry and Vision Sciences

& Cardiff University Brain Research

Imaging Centre (CUBRIC), School of Psychology

Cardiff University

Cardiff   

CF24 4HQ

UK

 

EmailWellsMT1@cardiff.ac.uk

Tel: 02920 879628

WebCardiff University webpage

Mason T Wells, MSc

Myfyriwr PhD

Yr Ysgol Optometreg a Gwyddorau’r Golwg

& Canolfan Ymchwil Delweddu’r Ymennydd Prifysgol Caerdydd (CUBRIC), Yr Ysgol Seicoleg

Prifysgol Caerdydd

Heol Maindy

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