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Thanks Doug,
The script works well for projfrac-avg. but the problem is: when i use mris_preproc to assemble my MWIs and put them on fsaverage, as .fsgd file is only the order of my controls and subjects and i would have the inflated cortex of MWI on fsaverage, then anyway
i have to specify my volume and registration files (tkregister2 output). Then there’s an error: i shouldn’t use both -fsgd and - iv together. Then i decided not to use fsgd file for mris_preproc and only using that for mri_glmfit. In mris_preproc, i write
all “-iv volumes and registration files” in the same order as in fsgd file but i don’t write -fsgd argument. Is this way correct?
Thanks,
Reza
> On 29 Jul 2019, at 23:32, Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
> Oh, I guess that's a problem! I've created a new version here
>
https://gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/safelinks/greve/mris_preproc
> See if that works. You should compare the output to using the max or
> -projfrac 0.5 to make sure they are at least similar since I have not
> run it even once:)
>
>
>> On 7/29/19 5:08 PM, Reza Rahmanzadeh wrote:
>>
>> External Email - Use Caution
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> But mris_prepoc will not accept “projfrac-avg” and there’s an error:
>> argument unrecognized!
>>
>> Then how can i compute the average via mris_preproc? As based on
>> tutorial, first i used tkregister/bbregister to compute the
>> registration matrix and then i should put input images with
>> transformation matrix in mris_preproc. I mean i shouldn’t use
>> mri_vol2surf (that allows me to use projfrac-avg) in group analysis
>> and that’s the reason i have problem with mris_proproc to compute the
>> average.
>>
>> What should i do?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Reza
>>
>> On 29 Jul 2019, at 23:03, Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D.
>> <DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu <
mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>> one computes the average, the other computes the maximum
>>>
>>>> On 7/29/19 9:03 AM, Reza Rahmanzadeh wrote:
>>>>
>>>> External Email - Use Caution
>>>>
>>>> Dear Doug,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I appreciat if you reply my question in the previous e-mail with this:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> can not i use projfrac-avg in mris_preproc? Is --projfrac-max min max
>>>> delta just the same?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Reza
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>> <
mailto:freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> <freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>> <
mailto:freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> on behalf of Reza
>>>> Rahmanzadeh
>>>> <reza.rahmanzadeh@unibas.ch <
mailto:reza.rahmanzadeh@unibas.ch>>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 29, 2019 11:37:46 AM
>>>> *To:* Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D.; Freesurfer support list;
>>>> greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <
mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] need for help
>>>>
>>>> External Email - Use Caution
>>>>
>>>> Dear Doug,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, the tutorial was super helpful. As i would compare the MWF
>>>> value in cortex between control subjects and patients. Now my problem
>>>> is how to make the contrast matrix for mris_preproc to do the
>>>> comparison in both direction (in 1, the outcome should be voxels in
>>>> which MWf value in control>patients & in 2, reversed).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The explanations in
>>>>
https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/MultiModalFmriGroup_freeview
>>>>
>>>> is for one group analysis and in
>>>>
https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis is
>>>> not clear about contrast.
>>>>
>>>> I remember for -randomise command-line, there was possibility to make
>>>> contrast and design matrix (something like FSGD) via design_ttest2.
>>>> Can i use still design_ttest2 for producing contrast and design matrix?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Reza
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu
>>>> <
mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> <
mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu>>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2019 5:31:27 PM
>>>> *To:* Reza Rahmanzadeh; Freesurfer support list;
>>>> greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <
mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> <
mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] need for help
>>>> Ah, I see. Try this tutorial. It is for fMRI, but it applies to any
>>>> modality
>>>>
https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/MultiModalFmriGroup_freeview
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/17/19 10:58 AM, Reza Rahmanzadeh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> External Email - Use Caution
>>>>>
>>>>> to clarify better, i need to compare myelin water fraction in cortex
>>>>> of control and patients to find out the areas with reduced MWF in
>>>>> patients cortex compared with controls, that is the reason i want to
>>>>> have cortex in inflated format.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For this reason i used bbregister to have register.dat, and then
>>>>> mri_vol2surf to resample MWI cortex to surface. As i need to have all
>>>>> surfaces in fsaverage space for group analysis, i am using
>>>>> mri_preproc7mri_surf2surf (according to the group analysis wiki you
>>>>> sent me).
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>> <
mailto:freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> <
mailto:freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>> <freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>> <
mailto:freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> <
mailto:freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> on behalf of Reza
>>>> Rahmanzadeh
>>>>> <reza.rahmanzadeh@unibas.ch <
mailto:reza.rahmanzadeh@unibas.ch>
>>>>> <
mailto:reza.rahmanzadeh@unibas.ch>>
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2019 4:26:21 PM
>>>>> *To:* Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D.; Freesurfer support list;
>>>>> greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <
mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>> <
mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] need for help
>>>>>
>>>>> External Email - Use Caution
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to compare MWI(sampled on the surface) between couple
>>>>> patients and controls using group analysis, therefore i need to have
>>>>> all inflated surface_on_same space (according to the wiki of group
>>>>> analysis you sent me, i should use mris_preproc to put my data on
>>>>> fsaverage).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you now tell me whether my mris_prepoc is right? and one other
>>>>> question i have asked in last email?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot,
>>>>>
>>>>> Reza
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>> <
mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> <
mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu>>
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2019 4:14:41 PM
>>>>> *To:* Reza Rahmanzadeh; Freesurfer support list;
>>>> greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <
mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> <
mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] need for help
>>>>> It is not clear to me what you are trying to do. Do you want to do a
>>>>> morphometry study (ie, comparing thickness, area, and/or volume across
>>>>> subjects)? Or do you want to compare MWI (sampled on the surface)
>>>>> across subjects?
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/17/19 10:09 AM, Reza Rahmanzadeh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> External Email - Use Caution
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Doug,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I took the back slash away and ran
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mris_preproc --target fsaverage --hemi lh --s FSP010 --out
>>>>>> lh.FSP10.white.mgh --meas white
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but i got error:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Reading curvature file
>>>>>> /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP010/surf/lh.white**
>>>>>> MRISreadBinaryCurvature: incompatible vertex number in file
>>>>>> /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP010/surf/lh.white**
>>>>>> ERROR: reading curvature file*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then i changed it to --meas : mris_preproc --target fsaverage --hemi
>>>>>> lh --s FSP010 --out lh.FSP10.white.mgz --meas area
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then, as i need to register my the inflated cortex of myelin water
>>>>>> image (MWI) to the surface_registered_on_fsaverage (could it be the
>>>>>> output of command-line above?), should i use this output
>>>>>> "lh.FSP10.white.mgz" and the output of mri_vol2surf (resampling
>>>>>> myelin water image to lh.white of my subject FSP10 before
>>>>>> registration to fsaverage) for mri_surf2surf (to resample the latter
>>>>>> to the former, to have MWI to surface_fsaverage)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking forward to answers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reza
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> *From:* freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>> <
mailto:freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> <
mailto:freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>> <freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>> <
mailto:freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> <
mailto:freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> on behalf of Reza
>>>>>> Rahmanzadeh <reza.rahmanzadeh@unibas.ch
>>>>>> <
mailto:reza.rahmanzadeh@unibas.ch>
>>>> <
mailto:reza.rahmanzadeh@unibas.ch>>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2019 9:56:00 AM
>>>>>> *To:* Freesurfer support list
>>>>>> *Cc:* DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu <
mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>> <
mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] need for help
>>>>>> External Email - Use Caution
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Tim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then if i would resample my data to fsaverage and surfaces are of
>>>>>> main importance to my work, what should i use for -meas ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reza
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 17 Jul 2019, at 09:39, Tim Schäfer <ts+ml@rcmd.org
>>>>>>> <
mailto:ts+ml@rcmd.org>
>>>> <
mailto:ts+ml@rcmd.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> External Email - Use Caution
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess '-meas' expects a measure (like 'thickness' or 'area'), not
>>>>>> a surface (like 'white').
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On July 17, 2019 at 9:03 AM Reza Rahmanzadeh
>>>>>> <reza.rahmanzadeh@unibas.ch <
mailto:reza.rahmanzadeh@unibas.ch>
>>>>>> <
mailto:reza.rahmanzadeh@unibas.ch>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> External Email - Use Caution
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I removed the back slash and the command line i executed is:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> mris_preproc --target fsaverage --hemi lh --s FSP010 --out
>>>>>> lh.FSP10.white.mgh --meas white
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but i got the error:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reading curvature file
>>>>>> /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP010/surf/lh.white
>>>>>>>> MRISreadBinaryCurvature: incompatible vertex number in file
>>>>>> /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP010/surf/lh.white
>>>>>>>> ERROR: reading curvature file
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have added --srcfmt mgh as the last argument, but again i got
>>>>>> the error:
>>>>>>>> Reading source surface reg
>>>>>> /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP010/surf/lh.sphere.reg
>>>>>>>> Loading source data
>>>>>>>> No such file or directory
>>>>>>>> ERROR: could not read
>>>>>> /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP010/surf/lh.white as type 3
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is wrong with my mris_prepoc command line?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reza
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>> <
mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> <
mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu>>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 10:01:15 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Reza Rahmanzadeh; Freesurfer support list;
>>>>>> greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <
mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>> <
mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: need for help
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> don't include the back slash (ie, fsaverage not fsaverage/ same
>>>>>> for FSP010)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/16/19 3:07 PM, Reza Rahmanzadeh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> External Email - Use Caution
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot Doug,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I started to proceed with FS group analysis wiki you sent to me.
>>>>>>>>> Accordingly, i have to resample all my data (output of recon-all
>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>> given subject for example) into fsaverage using mris_preproc. My
>>>>>>>>> commandline for a subject was:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> mris_preproc --target fsaverage/ --hemi lh --s FSP010/ --out
>>>>>>>>> lh.FSP10.white.mgh --meas white
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and i got the error:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> *Reading source surface reg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP010//surf/lh.fsaverage/.sphere.reg
>>>>>>>>> No such file or directory
>>>>>>>>> mri_surf2surf: could not read surface
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP010//surf/lh.fsaverage/.sphere.reg
>>>>>>>>> No such file or directory*
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> As there was no**lh.fsaverage/.sphere.reg* *folder, i found one
>>>> file
>>>>>>>>> in fsaverage/surf: lh.fsaverage_sym.sphere.reg. i created a folder
>>>>>>>>> with the name lh.fsaverage and i copied/pasted the mentiomed file
>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>> this folder and i changed the file name to: ./sphere.reg. I got the
>>>>>>>>> error:
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> *Reading curvature file
>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP010//surf/lh.sphere
>>>>>>>>> MRISreadBinaryCurvature: incompatible vertex number in file
>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP025//surf/lh.sphere*
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> What is the problem with my mris_preproc command-line?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Reza
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> *From:* freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>> <
mailto:freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> <
mailto:freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>> <freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>> <
mailto:freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> <
mailto:freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> on behalf of Greve,
>>>> Douglas
>>>>>>>>> N.,Ph.D. <DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>> <
mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu> <
mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu>>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2019 7:01:30 PM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* Reza Rahmanzadeh; Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>> <
mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> <
mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] need for help
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/16/19 12:57 PM, Reza Rahmanzadeh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> External Email - Use Caution
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (I assume now we are discussing in FS list, if no please let
>>>> me how
>>>>>>>>>> possible?)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Doug, now i could see the inflate surface, this means
>>>> that my
>>>>>>>>>> mri_vol2surf works well. As i would do GLM analysis over inflated
>>>>>>>>>> cortex of patients and controls in Qdec,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1- should i input my surfaces to Qdec as inflated surface or just
>>>>>>>>>> inputting the output_of_vol2surf.mgz to Qdec?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> if inflated one is the input, then how could i get them?
>>>>>> mris_inflate
>>>>>>>>>> gives error.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> QDEC is no longer being supported. Use the command line stream
>>>>>>>>> (mri_surf2surf, mri_glmfit, mri_glmfit-sim).
>>>>>>>>>
https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2- should i input all patients and controls surfaces in standard
>>>>>>>>>> surface before entering to Qdec?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 3- I would like to resample whole cortex (whole cortical
>>>>>> thickness, in
>>>>>>>>>> other words: the average of all projfrac between 0 and 1), is it
>>>>>>>>>> possible? or i am limited to resample one given depth of
>>>> cortex into
>>>>>>>>>> inflated surface only?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Run mri_vol2surf with --help and look for --projfrac-avg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks a lot,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Reza
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>>> <
mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> <
mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2019 6:22:56 PM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Reza Rahmanzadeh; freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>>> <
mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> <
mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: need for help
>>>>>>>>>> The command should be something like
>>>>>>>>>> tksurfer mysubject lh inflated -overlay output_of_vol2surf.mgz
>>>>>>>>>> Also, tksurfer is also obsolete (but should work). You should be
>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>> freeview (or tksurferfv, a freeview front end that takes the same
>>>>>>>>>> command line args as tksurfer)
>>>>>>>>>> Also, please remember to respond to the fs list
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/16/19 12:12 PM, Reza Rahmanzadeh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> External Email - Use Caution
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I got the mri_vol2surf output with .mgz:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> my tksurfer command:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> tksurfer FSP010/ (my subject) lh inflated_MWI.mgz (output of
>>>>>>>>>>> mri_vol2surf was lh.inflated_MWI.mgz)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and the error i got:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *freadFloat: fread failed**
>>>>>>>>>>> No such file or directory*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To me, opening the surfer in tksurfer is only a way to get
>>>> sure my
>>>>>>>>>>> vol2surf worked well. the main problem is i got this error
>>>> for all
>>>>>>>>>>> mris_smooth, mris_inflate, mris_sphere ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think that means the output of mri_vol2surf is not
>>>>>> correct, or
>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise i could proceed with that , even when tksurfer
>>>> could not
>>>>>>>>>>> open it, for GLM in Qdec?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Reza
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>>>> <
mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> <
mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2019 6:01:15 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Reza Rahmanzadeh
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: need for help
>>>>>>>>>>> what is your tksurfer command line? Also, the .w file is somewhat
>>>>>>>>>>> obsolete (it should still work); instead you can use .mgz
>>>> file (and
>>>>>>>>>>> don't spec --paint)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/16/2019 11:53 AM, Reza Rahmanzadeh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> External Email - Use Caution
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Doug,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I used the one without --inflated also, again the tksurfer
>>>>>> could not
>>>>>>>>>>>> open it and i got the same error. Where is the problem with my
>>>>>> cmd.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In addition, i wanted to make the output of mri_vol2surf
>>>> inflated
>>>>>>>>>>>> using mris_inflate but i got the same error:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *freadFloat: fread failed
>>>>>>>>>>>> No such file or directory*
>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>> *could you let me know what is the problem in registering my mwi
>>>>>>>>>>>> volumes to surface that i getonly such errors.*
>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Thanks,*
>>>>>>>>>>>> *reza
>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>> <
mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> <
mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2019 5:37:17 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Reza Rahmanzadeh; Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>> <
mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> <
mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>> <
mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> <
mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: need for help
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't use --inflated. The inflated surface is not a biological
>>>>>>>>>>>> surface. The default is the white surface, which is the one
>>>>>> you want
>>>>>>>>>>>> (--projfrac 0.5 will project it to the middle between the
>>>>>> white and
>>>>>>>>>> pial)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/16/2019 11:34 AM, Reza Rahmanzadeh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> External Email - Use Caution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Freesurfer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a batch of myelin water image (MWI) from patients and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> controls, and trying to have inflated cortex registered on
>>>>>> standard
>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface for GLM (Qdec).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> With the commandlines below i get my inflated surface of MWI
>>>>>> map of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my patients and controls.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1-using bbregister to put MWI into FS space and to calculate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> register.dat:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bbregister --s FSP042/ --mov mwf.nii --init-fsl --reg
>>>>>> register.dat
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --o mwf_FS --t1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2-using mri_vol2surf to extract inflated surface of MWI:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mri_vol2surf --mov mwf.nii --reg register.dat --projfrac 0.5
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --interp nearest --hemi lh --o lh.inflated_MWI.w --out_type
>>>>>>>>>>>>> paint--inflated (*or*--surf sphere)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> However the tksurfer could not open the inflated surface
>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> error message is:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *ERROR: MRISread: file 'inflated.lh.mwf.mgh' has 0 vertices!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably trying to use a scalar data file as a surface!*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used the commandline below for #2:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mri_vol2surf --src mwf.nii --srcreg register.dat --hemi lh --o
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mwf-lh.w --out_type paint
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and i got the error:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *ERROR: MRISread: file
>>>>>>>>>>>>> '/usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP010//surf/lh.mwf-lh.w' has
>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more faces than vertices!**
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably trying to use a scalar data file as a surface!*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As tksurfer could not open my surfaces with errors above, i
>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps the vol2surf procedure is not done properly. Where
>>>> is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem? i need to get the inflated cortex and then putting ob
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sphere (using mris_sphere) and the registering to standard
>>>>>> surface
>>>>>>>>>>>>> using mris_register for GLM in Qdec, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is two weeks i am struggling with these commands, any helps
>>>>>>>>>>>>> highly appreciated. *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reza
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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