Hi All,

I followed the steps in the tutorial on tkregister2 to align the two volumes and saved the new reg. Following this I ran recon-all again but freesurfer still quits at the watershed step. I've attached a file with the output to this email. Do you know if something else could be causing the problem.

Thanks a lot,

Anil.

On 2/12/07, Nick Schmansky <nicks@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
Anil,

exclude the argument '--surf orig' from tkregister2 if the surfaces are
not available.

Nick

On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 16:58 -0600, Anil Roy wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I loaded up the orig volumes and the xfm. The brainmask volume isn't
> there because freesurfer quit at the skull strip phase. I've attached
> the tiffs of the orig and xfm to this email. As you'll see, the xfm
> does look quite bad. Do you know how I could correct this.
>
> The manual mentions using tkregister2, but when I run it I get an
> error(also attached) because the surfaces weren't generated. Is there
> a different way to use tkregister2 to correct the output.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Anil
>
> On 2/9/07, Doug Greve < greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
>         Hi Anil,
>
>         my suggestion was to first look at the volume in tkmedit
>         without the xfm, then, if that is oriented correctly and looks
>         ok, move on to the xfm
>
>         doug
>
>         Anil Roy wrote:
>         > Thanks a lot for all your input. I will check out the xfm in
>         > tkmedit and get back to you with the results.
>         >
>         > Anil.
>         >
>         > On 2/9/07, Doug Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
>         >         I think the first thing you should do is visualize
>         >         your input in tkmedit to make sure it is oriented
>         >         correctly. FreeSurfer and AFNI  may be making
>         >         different assumptions about the data.
>         >
>         >         doug
>         >
>         >
>         >         Nick Schmansky wrote:
>         >         > Anil,
>         >         >
>         >         > See this tutorial:
>         >         >
>         >         >   https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/Talairach
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         > Also, a tool to appear in the next release, which checks the
>         >         > talairach.xfm against a known set of proper alignments, indicates that
>         >         > this alignment is bad.  You probably will need to manually align.
>         >         >
>         >         > Nick
>         >         >
>         >         > On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 20:46 -0500, Bruce Fischl wrote:
>         >         >
>         >         > > you need to visualize it in tkmedit. Use file -> load transform for main
>         >         > > volume and see if it looks reasonable (should be slightly looking down,
>         >         > > and pretty vertical so for example the interhemispheric fissure goes
>         >         > >
>         >         > >
>         >         > > straight up and down in a coronal view
>         >         > > On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Anil Roy wrote:
>         >         > >
>         >         > >
>         >         > > > I've attached the talairach.xfm to this email. I'm a newbie to MRI analysis
>         >         > > > so I don't know what exactly would be a red flag in this file. Please do
>         >         > > > tell me if you see something odd.
>         >         > > >
>         >         > > >
>         >         > > > Anil.
>         >         > > >
>         >         > > >
>         >         > > > On 2/8/07, Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
>         >         > > >
>         >         > > > > did you check the talairach.xfm?
>         >         > > > > On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Anil Roy wrote:
>         >         > > > >
>         >         > > > >
>         >         > > > > > Hi All,
>         >         > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > I installed the new build and Freesurfer still quits at the same place.
>         >         > > > > >
>         >         > > > > I've
>         >         > > > >
>         >         > > > > > attached the recon-all.log file to this email. Its still giving an error
>         >         > > > > >
>         >         > > > > at
>         >         > > > >
>         >         > > > > > the watershed step.
>         >         > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > Anil.
>         >         > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > On 2/8/07, Anil Roy < aroy85@gmail.com> wrote:
>         >         > > > > >
>         >         > > > > >
>         >         > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > I'll install the CentOS build and run the brain again.
>         >         > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > Anil.
>         >         > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > On 2/8/07, Anil Roy
>         >         > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > < aroy85@gmail.com> wrote:
>         >         > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > Yes. When I convert to BRIK and open with AFNI, the images show up
>         >         > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > fine
>         >         > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > in all three planes.
>         >         > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > There is some noise towards the very end but it only shows up after
>         >         > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > the
>         >         > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > slices with no brain tissue (or any that I can see).
>         >         > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > Anil.
>         >         > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > On 2/8/07, Bruce Fischl <
>         >         > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
>         >         > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > if you convert it to BRIK and visualize it does it look correct?
>         >         > > > > > > > > On Thu, 8
>         >         > > > > > > > > Feb 2007, Anil Roy wrote:
>         >         > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > Hello all,
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > I have some raw data and I'm not sure of the format. Its
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > definitely
>         >         > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > not
>         >         > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > dicom. I ran recon-all on these files but I get an error saying
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > it
>         >         > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > can't
>         >         > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > read the files. I have posted the output below. I tried to
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > convert
>         >         > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > the files
>         >         > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > to afni format (BRIK + HEAD), and tried recon-all again. It ran
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > for
>         >         > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > a while
>         >         > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > but gave an error that I've attached to a text file.
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > Can someone please tell me how I can get Freesurfer to read these
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > files. I
>         >         > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > can also upload the raw files if you'd like to take a look at
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > them.
>         >         > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot - Anil.
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > [root@dhcp-129-105-146-127 freesurfer]# recon-all -force -i
>         >         > > > > > > > > > /root/U_Chicago/Tone_Acquisition/Nl-TA1-001/I.001 -subjid
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > Nl-TA1-001
>         >         > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > -sd
>         >         > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > /root/Freesurfer/Tone_Acquisition -all
>         >         > > > > > > > > > INFO: SUBJECTS_DIR is /root/Freesurfer/Tone_Acquisition
>         >         > > > > > > > > > INFO: /root/Freesurfer/Tone_Acquisition/Nl-TA1-001 exists with
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > -i,
>         >         > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > but
>         >         > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > -force specified.
>         >         > > > > > > > > > Deleting any previous source volumes
>         >         > > > > > > > > > Actual FREESURFER_HOME /usr/local/freesurfer
>         >         > > > > > > > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 76880 Feb  8 13:25
>         >         > > > > > > > > > /root/Freesurfer/Tone_Acquisition/Nl-TA1-001/scripts/recon-
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > all.log
>         >         > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > Linux dhcp-129-105-146-127.speech.northwestern.edu
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > 2.6.17-1.2157_FC5smp #1
>         >         > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > SMP Tue Jul 11 23:24:16 EDT 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
>         >         > > > > > > > > > strings: Command not found.
>         >         > > > > > > > > > WM removal version
>         >         > > > > > > > > > /root/Freesurfer/Tone_Acquisition/Nl-TA1-001
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > mri_convert /root/U_Chicago/Tone_Acquisition/Nl-TA1-001/I.001
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > /root/Freesurfer/Tone_Acquisition/Nl-TA1-001/mri/orig/001.mgz
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > mri_convert /root/U_Chicago/Tone_Acquisition/Nl-TA1-001/I.001
>         >         > > > > > > > > > /root/Freesurfer/Tone_Acquisition/Nl-TA1-001/mri/orig/001.mgz
>         >         > > > > > > > > > reading from /root/U_Chicago/Tone_Acquisition/Nl-TA1-001/I.001...
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > genesisRead(): can't determine file name format for
>         >         > > > > > > > > > /root/U_Chicago/Tone_Acquisition/Nl-TA1-001/I.001
>         >         > > > > > > > > > Linux
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > dhcp-129-105-146-127.speech.northwestern.edu
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > 2.6.17-1.2157_FC5smp #1
>         >         > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > SMP Tue Jul 11 23:24:16 EDT 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > > recon-all exited with ERRORS at Thu Feb  8 13:52:57 CST 200
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > > > >
>         >         > > > > > > >
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>         >         MGH-NMR Center
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