----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Antonella Kis <atorok9@yahoo.com>
To: Douglas N Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Default for fwhm while running mri_glmfit

I see.I am not sure what exactly you mean by an outlier in my data,but if there will be an outlier, why the mri_glmfit --sim is working for a smoothing level 15?
Also what means in your last sentence "when the smoothing level is only 20"? Isn't 20 the max smoothing level? And while smoothing level increases shouldn't fwhm increase?

How different will be my results from the real one if I change the fwhm value from 31.843147 in the mri_glmfit.log file to a value of 30 and the run mri_glmfit-sim? I tried this and I am not getting the error any more but there are more clusters coming up and I have a different size for original clusters so I suppose the cortical thickness values cached in the tables are not good. Can I do this trick?

Many thanks,
AK

From: Douglas N Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
To: Antonella Kis <atorok9@yahoo.com>
Cc: "freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Default for fwhm while running mri_glmfit


There is no one smoothing level that is right. In general, people tend
to just go with a default value. I think that 20 is pretty high, I
usually go with 5-15. You might examine your data to see if you have an
outlier. I think it is unusual for you to get an output fwhm of over 30
when the smoothing level is only 20.
doug

Antonella Kis wrote:
>
>
> Hi Doug,
>
>
> Thanks for helping again.  I used  smoothing level of 20 because I was
> told to use this smoothing.  If I use the 15 I am not getting the
> error but I need to use the 20.Is there a way that I can make it
> work/correct this error and get my tables cached in this case?
>
> Is fwhm= 15  the default in FS while running the mri_gmlfit
> (mri_surfcluster? What if my data was smoothed at 10 while running the
> mris_preproc --cache-in thickness.fwhm20.fsaverage \
>
>
> Please advise.
> Thank you.
> AK
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Douglas N Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> *To:* Antonella Kis <atorok9@yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* "freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu"
> <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>; "fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu"
> <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 30, 2011 10:52 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Error due to fwhm
>
> That exceeds the valued for which the tables are cached. What
> smoothing level did you use?
> doug
>
> Antonella Kis wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > When I ran the QDEC on patients with abnormal side right, the fwhm
> for the clusters at thresh 2 is fwhm = 31.843147.
> > Then, I ran mri_glmfit-sim on the QDEC output and it gives me the
> following  error (cannot find fwhm 32):
> >
> > ERROR: cannot find
> /usr/local/freesurfer/average/mult-comp-cor/fsaverage/lh/cortex/fwhm32/neg/th20/mc-z.csd
> >
> > Is there a way that I can change the fhwm while running
> mri_glmfit-sim from 32 to 31.843147 or how I can correct this error?
> >
> >
> > Many thanks.
> > AK
> >
> >
>
> -- Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
> MGH-NMR Center
> greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> Phone Number: 617-724-2358 Fax: 617-726-7422
>
> Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting
> <http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting>
> FileDrop: www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html
> <http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html>
>
>
>
> The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom
> it is
> addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the
> e-mail
> contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance
> HelpLine at
> http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you
> in error
> but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender
> and properly
> dispose of the e-mail.
>
>
>
> Hi Doug,
>
>
>
>
>

--
Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
MGH-NMR Center
greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Phone Number: 617-724-2358
Fax: 617-726-7422

Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting
FileDrop: www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html

_______________________________________________
Freesurfer mailing list
Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer