areyou loading the label (output of mri_cor2label) or did you create an annotation? Try loading the label. Then try loading LeftHippoBody_surf.mgh. If that does not look ok, check the registration between binLeftHippoBody.mgz and subj1 with --regheader doug On 10/24/2013 06:40 PM, Marcos Martins da Silva wrote: > Hi, Doug > Thanks again for your help. > Using the command tksurfer suj1 lh surfHippo, I get the surface loaded > in tksurfer in the same way that I get in freeview. The only > difference is that the terminal window output is more verbose and that > is valuable when investigating this kind of situation. I am attaching > a screenshot. I got this just after I used tksurfer to import an > annotation (lh.surfHippo + hippo.annot.png). > The screenshot show just a few vertices with color. Indeed this is > similar to what we see in freeview, except that in this last tool all > vertices not in label appears in black and tksurfer preserves the gray > color. > At terminal output we can see tksurfer expects the surface refers to > lh.white. That is not the case, I guess. I think it helps explain the > terminal window output we see in freeview and also in tksurfer when I > try to load the annot file. It seems we have lots of vertices in annot > file that both tools cannot find in surface file and at the same time > we have lots of vertices in my surface file not described in the annot > files. At least now I can understand the situation. It puzzles me > because the surface, binary masks, labels and annotations were created > from the same source: the posterior*.mgz files created by recon-all > --hippo-subfields. But, well, I probably misunderstood something in > documentation and lost my way in some point. I hope you can help me > with the correct steps to be followed. I still dream of showing the > hippocampus in a similar way we do with cortex when we load lh.pial > and lh.aparc.annot. > Thank you for your help and attention. > Cheers, > Marcos. > Em Qui, 2013-10-24 às 12:40 -0400, Douglas N Greve escreveu: >> Can you load it properly in tksurfer? >> >> >> On 10/23/2013 12:44 AM, Marcos Martins da Silva wrote: >> > >> > Hi, Doug >> > Sorry for this late feedback. >> > Just so you can understand what is binLeftHippoBody.mgz I will explain >> > its origin. >> > 1) recon-all --hippo-subfields >> > 2) mri_concat the posterior*.mgz to get the whole hippocampus >> > 3) a custom octave routine to segment the whole hippocampus into head, >> > body and tail. This routine preserves the probability values of the >> > original posterior*.mgz >> > 4) mri_binarize the whole hippocampus and its segments. So >> > binLeftHippoBody.mgz is the binary mask of left hippocampal body. >> > 5) mri-tesselate and mris_smooth the whole hippocampus binary mask to >> > create a surface (lh.surfHippo) >> > >> > Now that is the reason I would like to get the surface labels for >> > head, body and tail. I would like to build a annot in order to display >> > the colored segments over the whole hippocampus surface. >> > Your last tip was great and now I have vertex numbers at the labels >> > files and mris_label2annot works. It follows the commands I used to >> > process the hippocampal body: >> > mri_vol2surf --src binLeftHippoBody.mgz --out LeftHippoBody_surf.mgh >> > --out_type mgh --hemi lh --regheader suj1 --surf surfHippo >> > mri_cor2label --i LeftHippoBody_surf.mgh --surf suj1 lh surfHippo --id >> > 1 --l lh.HippoBody.label >> > >> > I put the --surf parameter pointing to lh.surfHippo because, if not, >> > it would use lh.white (default). As I said it works but the results >> > are not visually correct (see attached file). The surface loads on >> > freeview with no problem but if I try to load the label representing >> > the body or the annot with the 3 segments they do not appear. It seems >> > only a small part of the vertices appears in blue. I also get the >> > following output at the terminal window I used to start freeview: >> > >> > MRISreadAnnotationIntoArray: vertex index out of range: 122882 >> > i=00000000, in_array_size=11627 >> > annot file: ../label/lh.Hippo.annot >> > MRISreadAnnotationIntoArray: vertex index out of range: 122883 >> > i=00000000, in_array_size=11627 >> > annot file: ../label/lh.Hippo.annot >> > MRISreadAnnotationIntoArray: vertex index out of range: 122884 >> > i=00000000, in_array_size=11627 >> > annot file: ../label/lh.Hippo.annot >> > MRISreadAnnotationIntoArray: vertex index out of range: 122885 >> > i=00000000, in_array_size=11627 >> > annot file: ../label/lh.Hippo.annot >> > reading colortable from annotation file... >> > colortable with 4 entries read (originally ../label/Hippo.ctab) >> > colortable with 4 entries read (originally ../label/Hippo.ctab) >> > =00000000, in_array_size=11627 >> > >> > Since the posterior*.mgz files are 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 mm I also tried to >> > use mri_convert --vs 1 1 1, but it did not worked too. >> > I guess, or at least, I hope I am closer the image I want but I guess >> > some more steps are necessary. >> > Thank you for any help. >> > Marcos >> > >> > >> > >> > Em Qui, 2013-10-17 às 22:19 -0400, Douglas Greve escreveu: >> >> >> >> Is *binLeftHippoBody.mgz a volume label or a surface label? If a >> >> volume label, map it onto the surface with mri_vol2surf, the run >> >> mri_cor2label *specifying --surf >> >> >> >> doug >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/17/13 5:00 PM, Marcos Martins da Silva wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi, Doug >> >>> Thank you for your answer. >> >>> >> >>> I am trying cor2label as you suggested. First of all I am afraid to >> >>> say that website documentation and help from the own command are a >> >>> bit different so I got a little confused. But the following command >> >>> worked: *mri_cor2label --i binLeftHippoBody.mgz --id 1 --l 2.leftBody* >> >>> >> >>> Using freeview I could load the hippocampus volume and 2.leftBody as >> >>> a ROI. I attached a screenshot that also included 1.leftHead and >> >>> 3.leftTail, generated in the same way. >> >>> When I tried to concatenate the 3 labels into an annot file I got an >> >>> error: >> >>> >> >>> *mris_label2annot --s bert --h lh --ctab HippoColorLUT.txt --l >> >>> 1.leftHead.label --l 2.leftBody.label --l 3.leftTail.label --a >> >>> lefthippo* >> >>> *Loading /home/marcos/freesurfer/subjects/bert/surf/lh.orig* >> >>> *1 16711680 leftHead* >> >>> *ERROR: 1.leftHead.label, n=0, vertex -1 out of range* >> >>> >> >>> When I checked label file generated by mri_cor2label the first >> >>> collumn (vertex number) contains only *-1* as value. >> >>> It seems that when you use mri_cor2label it does not preserve or >> >>> even recover the vertex number. It also seems I need the correct >> >>> vertex number in label file to use mris_label2annot >> >>> Just to rule out a problem with the hippocampal subfield files I >> >>> tried the example command (extracted from command help): >> >>> mri_cor2label --i aseg.mgz --id 12 --l left-putamen.label >> >>> This label also shows only -1 as vertex number. >> >>> >> >>> Could you please explain me what do I need to do to get the vertex >> >>> numbers in the label file as output of mri_cor2label? >> >>> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> Marcos >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Em Qua, 2013-10-16 às 20:34 -0400, Douglas Greve escreveu: >> >>>> I think you need to use mri_cor2label (not very well named:) >> >>>> doug >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 10/16/13 4:24 PM, Marcos Martins da Silva wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Hi, Freesurfers. >> >>>>> I need to create some labels from binary masks. Sometime ago I >> >>>>> read a post >> >>>>> (https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pipermail//freesurfer/2013-October/033783.html >> >>>>> ) and, unless I am wrong, it seemed to me that mri_label2vol could >> >>>>> be the tool to get it. If so, could you please explain how? I >> >>>>> read documentation on wiki and help from the command itself and >> >>>>> could not see how to accomplish that. I could only find how to >> >>>>> create a volume from a label. What I need to do is to get a mask >> >>>>> like the binLeftHippoHead.mgz (attached) and create a label. >> >>>>> Assuming it is possible, I could also make labels for Hippocampal >> >>>>> body and head, merge the 3 labels into an annot file. This way i >> >>>>> can use Freeview to load the whole hippocampal surface and >> >>>>> discriminate the 3 segments by colors with the annot file. >> >>>>> Thanks in advance for any help. >> >>>>> Cheers, >> >>>>> Marcos. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> Freesurfer mailing list >> >>>>>Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> >> >>>>>https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Freesurfer mailing list >> >>>>Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> >> >>>>https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is >> >>>> addressed. 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