I guess the problem is that those regions should not be out of bounds. Maybe I need to create a new Lookup Table for the infant mri's? Is that possible to do?


On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Douglas N Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
Hi Mark, please post to the list and not to me.
thanks
doug

On 07/24/2013 03:21 PM, Mark Plantz wrote:
I guess the problem is that those regions should not be out of bounds. Maybe I need to create a new Lookup Table for the infant mri's? Is that possible to do?


On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Douglas N Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:


    what is the problem exactly? The fact that there are red regions
    or that that the red regions are labeled as "Out of Bounds"? If
    the latter, you will need to create a LUT that matches your
    regions. the out of bounds means that the index in the volume does
    not match an index in the LUT.
    doug



    On 07/24/2013 01:26 PM, Mark Plantz wrote:

        Finally got the registration to work. However, it looks like
        the out of bounds regions (in red) are still present (even
        though the regions are well within our boundaries). Is that
        expected since they were labeled in the original segmentation
        volume? Is there anyway to correct those?

        Thanks for all of the help!

        - Mark
        p.s. I attached a picture of the original brain.mgz file
        viewed with the corrected segmentation volume


        On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Mark Plantz
        <markplantz2016@u.northwestern.edu
        <mailto:markplantz2016@u.northwestern.edu>
        <mailto:markplantz2016@u.northwestern.edu

        <mailto:markplantz2016@u.northwestern.edu>>> wrote:

            Finally got the registration to work. However, it looks
        like the
            out of bound regions (in red) are still prevalent. Is that
            expected since they were present in the original segmentation
            volume? Would there be anyway to correct those?

            Thanks for all the help!

            - MP


            On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Mark Plantz
            <markplantz2016@u.northwestern.edu
        <mailto:markplantz2016@u.northwestern.edu>
            <mailto:markplantz2016@u.northwestern.edu

        <mailto:markplantz2016@u.northwestern.edu>>> wrote:

                Nevermind, it turned out to be a permissions issue.
        Thanks!


                On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Mark Plantz
                <markplantz2016@u.northwestern.edu
        <mailto:markplantz2016@u.northwestern.edu>
                <mailto:markplantz2016@u.northwestern.edu

        <mailto:markplantz2016@u.northwestern.edu>>> wrote:

                    Thanks for the reply Doug. I recently ran the
        bbregister
                    command and attempted to view the results using
                    tkregister2. I received the following error:

                     dhcp-165-124-23-232 <tel:165-124-23-232>
        <tel:165-124-23-232 <tel:165-124-23-232>>:Desktop


                    IngvalsonLab$ tkregister2 --mov
                           /Volumes/Wong_Lab/CochlearImplant/UNC_NiFTI/infant-1yr-mgz/mri/avgseg.mgz
                    --reg /Users/IngvalsonLab/Desktop/register.dat --surf

                    tkregister_tcl
                    /Applications/freesurfer/tktools/tkregister2.tcl
                    INFO: no target volume specified, assuming
        FreeSurfer orig
                    volume.
                    target  volume orig
                    movable volume
                           /Volumes/Wong_Lab/CochlearImplant/UNC_NiFTI/infant-1yr-mgz/mri/avgseg.mgz
                    reg file /Users/IngvalsonLab/Desktop/register.dat
                    LoadVol        1
                    ZeroCRAS       0
                    $Id: tkregister2.c,v 1.121.2.1 2011/03/28 20:25:16
        greve Exp $
                    Diagnostic Level -1
                    regio_read_register(): Undefined error: 0
                    Error reading subject from
                    /Users/IngvalsonLab/Desktop/register.dat
                    ERROR: reading
        /Users/IngvalsonLab/Desktop/register.dat
                    dhcp-165-124-23-232 <tel:165-124-23-232>
        <tel:165-124-23-232 <tel:165-124-23-232>>:Desktop


                    IngvalsonLab$

                    I do not believe it is a permissions issue?

                    Could it simply be that the register was bad? Is
        there an
                    easy way to open up the register.dat.mincost file
        to check
                    the registration?

                    Thanks again,

                    MP


                    On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Douglas Greve
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        <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>> wrote:


                        You can try using bbregister. Normally, you
        don't use
                        bbregister on a segmentation, but the segmentation
                        index numbers just happen to be "T1-weighted".
                        doug
                        ps. Please remember to copy the list when
        responding.
                        thanks!



                        On 7/23/13 9:51 AM, Mark Plantz wrote:

                            Hi Doug,

                               Sorry about that vague explanation. So
            I received
                            a series of infant brain atlases from a
            UNC medical
                            research group
                                       (http://www.med.unc.edu/bric/ideagroup/free-softwares/unc-infant-0-1-2-atlases).
                            I have a series of infant MRI's that I
            would like to
                            segment (using the infant atlases, instead
            of the
                            default adult atlas in FreeSurfer).

                               As a preliminary step, I was attempting
            to check
                            the alignment of one of the atlas files
                            ('avgseg.mgz') with one of the input brains
                            ('brain.mgz'). [I attached these two
            files, just in
                            case].

                            So my command line would be:

                            tkmedit $Subject brain.mgz -segmentation
            avgseg.mgz
                            $FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt

                            The result was the previously attached
            image. I was
                            just wondering if there is any way to
            shift the two
                            images manually so the alignment is
            better? Or maybe
                            the two files are simply not compatible
            with one another?

                            Thanks for all the help!

                            Best,

                            Mark




                            On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Douglas N
            Greve
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            <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>> wrote:


                                Hi Mark, I have no idea what you are
            doing. Can
                                you send a command line?
                                Are either of the images generated by FS?
                                doug




                                On 07/22/2013 03:56 PM, Mark Plantz wrote:
                                > Hello FreeSurfers,
                                >
                                >     I recently obtained a set of infant
                                templates. Out of curiousity,
                                > I decided to view one of the input
            brains with
                                the provided segmented
                                > volume file. It appears that there
            is some
                                misalignment. I wouldn't
                                > expect the alignment to be perfect,
            since I am
                                basically overlaying an
                                > average of multiple brains onto one.
            However,
                                it looks like this
                                > misalignment may be caused by
            either: 1.) the
                                segmentation volume file
                                > being shifted down or 2.) the slices
            not lining
                                up properly (i.e. one
                                > file starts before the other).
                                >
                                >    Any ideas what could cause a
            problem like
                                this? Could it be that
                                > the segmented files are simply not
            compatible
                                with FreeSurfer?
                                >
                                > Thanks for the help,
                                >
                                > Mark
                                >
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