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OK - the 5.3 or the 6.0 version?

2018-05-14 20:00 GMT+02:00 Douglas N. Greve <dgreve@mgh.harvard.edu>:
Can you tar up one of your subjects (fmri and FS analysis) and send it
to me on our file drop below?


On 05/14/2018 01:58 PM, Patrycja Naumczyk wrote:
>
>
> Hi Doug,
>
> we have v.6.0 on a cluster, so I quickly run one subject there (the
> one, whose files and pictures I attached previously). This time the
> BBR-sum was 0.9476, so slightly better but still bad :(
>
> Best regards,
> Patrycja
>
> 2018-05-14 16:56 GMT+02:00 Douglas Greve <dgreve@mgh.harvard.edu
> <mailto:dgreve@mgh.harvard.edu>>:
>
>     It might be the initialization with FLIRT. Do you have access to
>     FS6.0? If so, can you try running 6.0 instead to see if it fixes
>     the problem?
>
>
>     On 5/14/18 4:05 AM, Patrycja Naumczyk wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Hi All,
>>
>>     I'm still struggling with the registration - so far I tried
>>     performing slice-timing and/or motion correction in SPM instead
>>     of FS, but that did not changed the results.
>>
>>     I came up with a new idea, but don't know how to verify it. I
>>     used GE scanner for data acquisition, which meant I had to
>>     convert the fMRI data and make the directory tree myself (as the
>>     dcm-unpack did not work well). I used MRIconvert for converting
>>     to nifti, which does not preserve some of the FS-Fast crucial
>>     data (i.e. the TR, which I had to update with mri_convert in all
>>     files). Is it possible that this is the reason of bbregister's
>>     misalignment? Like, the script needs some additional information
>>     that should be embedded in the data and is not (due to outside
>>     conversion)?
>>
>>     I was thinking of maybe working around the problem by manually
>>     registering the rs-fMRI template to task-based template and then
>>     merging the two registration files (rs-fMRI_to_taskBased and
>>     taskBased_to_anatomical) and feeding that to the preproc-sess
>>     with "-regfile" flag. Potentially it could work, but maybe there
>>     is a simpler solution?
>>
>>     The only difference between the properly aligned task-based fMRI
>>     and faulty rs-fMRI is that the latter has lower resolution (task
>>     based: 2.5x2.5x3.2mm, rs-fMRI: 3.4x3.4x3.3mm) and was longer
>>     (task-based: 160 volumes, rs-fMRI: 400 volumes).
>>     I attach screenshot of the problem in tkregister. Left -
>>     task-based fMRI, middle - rs-fMRI, right - rs-fMRI with
>>     task-based registration file used.
>>
>>     Best regards,
>>     Patrycja
>>
>>     2018-05-12 15:20 GMT+02:00 Patrycja Naumczyk
>>     <patrycja.naumczyk@gmail.com <mailto:patrycja.naumczyk@gmail.com>>:
>>
>>         Hi All,
>>
>>         I'm running FS v. 5.3 on Gentoo Linux.
>>
>>         I made a study, where all subjects during one session had T1,
>>         resting-state and task-based fMRI. I processed all anatomical
>>         data through standard recon-all (it worked well), and the
>>         task-based fMRI through FS-FAST - which also generated fine
>>         results.
>>
>>         Now I wanted to look into the rs-fMRI with functional
>>         connectivity. I made a separate directory tree for this
>>         purpose (in order not to mess task and rest data), and
>>         unfortunately the bbregister doesn't handle the registration
>>         during preproc-sess properly. Misalignment is big and covers
>>         all runs. BBR-sums of all of participants (N=39) exceed 0.8
>>         (some of them exceed 1.0). What's interesting is that
>>         bbregister previously managed the task-based fMRI data well
>>         (with no BBR-sum exceeding 0.8). I double checked the data
>>         for any i.e. conversion/orientation faults, but found none.
>>
>>         The command for preprocessing was identical in rs-fMRI and
>>         task-based fMRI:
>>         preproc-sess -sf <sessid> -d <ProjectDirectory> -surface
>>         fsaverage lhrh -mni305 -fwhm 5 -per-run -fsd bold
>>
>>         I attach exemplary register log file from rs-fMRI subject
>>         registration (BBRsum=0.9704). This subject's task-based fMRI
>>         BBR-sum was 0.55.
>>
>>         My question is - what may be the cause of such a discrepancy
>>         between registration of two functional runs taken one by one
>>         (the rs-fMRI preceded the task based)? Does anyone have an
>>         idea how to fix the problem?
>>
>>         Best regards,
>>         Patrycja
>>
>>
>>
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