I would use the TVV
On 04/06/2017 06:28 PM, Gullickson, James wrote:
> Doug,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> Difference between the two TVV methods ranges between 1-6%
> Difference between the two TBV methods ranges between 2-4%
>
> Basically, my question is two-fold:
>
> a) what is the most accurate representation of total ventricular volume
> b) what is the most accurate representation of total brain volume (all
> parenchyma)
>
> Best,
>
> James
>
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Douglas N Greve
> <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.> <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu >> wrote:
>
> that looks right. how different are the values?
>
>
> On 04/05/2017 10:58 AM, Gullickson, James wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I want to calculate a Ventricle-to-Brain ratio (VBR) as a measure of
> > parenchymal atrophy using Freesurfer version 5.3.0. I have tried
> to go
> > about this using the aseg.stats output (using asegstats2table),
> but am
> > running into inconsistencies.
> >
> > The basic calculation for VBR is:
> >
> > (Total Ventricular Volume/Total Brain Volume) * 100
> >
> > i.e. Bigler, E. D. (2013). Traumatic brain injury, neuroimaging, and
> > neurodegeneration. /Frontiers in human neuroscience/, /7/, 395.
> >
> >
> > What is the best way to get Total Ventricular Volume (TVV) and Total
> > Brain Volume (TBV) for this calculation? I have tried several ways,
> > which lead to different values:
> >
> > TVV = left lateral ventricle + left inf lateral ventricle + right
> > lateral ventricle + right inf lateral ventricle + 3rd ventricle
> + 4th
> > ventricle + 5th ventricle + choroid plexus
> >
> > which gives me a different result than
> >
> > TVV = BrainSegVol - BrainSegVolNotVent
> >
> >
> > and for TBV
> >
> > TBV = TotalGrayVol + CorticalWhiteMatterVol
> >
> > which differs from
> >
> > TBV = BrainSegVolNotVent
> >
> >
> > Thank you for your help,
> >
> > James Gullickson
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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