Hi all,

I'm having a problem similar to Krista's, where I'm getting holes in a few labels (e.g. V1.label, MT.label, BA44.label, BA45.label) produced by the recon-all pipeline.  Did you ever discover the solution to this issue? 

I'm running Freesurfer v5.3.0.

Andrew




On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
you can do it here:

https://gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/filedrop2/

On Thu, 3 Oct 2013, krista kelly wrote:

Sure! Where/how do I upload the subject's folder? I've tried attaching a
zipped copy to my email but it exceeds the size limit. 
Thanks!
Krista


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
wrote:
      Hi Krista

      I've never seen that happen before. Can you upload this subject
      and we will take a look?

      thanks
      Bruce
      On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, krista kelly wrote:


            Hi Bruce,
            I've tried twice to post this to the freesurfer mail
            list but it hasn't
            worked, I'm assuming because of the attached
            pictures. I'm going to try this
            again with only one picture and see if it works.

            I'm using the V1 labels that are automatically
            generated during recon-all (I
            think at autorecon step 28??). There are also V2 and
            MT labels that get
            generated. Are they the Hinds ones? I'm using
            freesurfer version 5.0 and
            have tried in 5.1 as well.

            Here are the commands I ran:

            recon-all -all -notal-check -cw256 -force -subjid
            BV20 -i
            ~/Desktop/New_CT_niis/BV20.nii.gz

            By holes, I mean that when I look at the label on
            the 3d brain in tksurfer,
            there are areas on the surface that are coloured in
            by the label. I've
            attached a photograph of the left hemisphere with
            the V1 label overlaid.
            It's even worse, and in both hemispheres, when I
            look at the cuneus label
            automatically generated with freesurfer. Is there
            something I'm doing wrong?
             Please let me know you're not able to see the
            snapshots.

            Thanks!
            Krista


            On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Bruce Fischl
            <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
            wrote:
                  Hi Krista,

                  which V1 label are you talking about? And when
            you say holes
                  when you load it onto the 3D brain with
            tksurfer, what exactly
                  do you mean? Can you send us a snapshot?
                  Bruce


                  On Mon, 23 Sep 2013, krista kelly wrote:

                        Hi all, 
                        I'm having trouble with V1 labels that
            are mapped
                        automatically in freesurfer. I've
            noticed that there
                        are holes in the label when I load it
            onto a 3d
                        brain in tksurfer. This happens more
            often for the
                        left
                        hemisphere and not so much for the
            right. I've found
                        the problem persists even after doing
            manual edits
                        of the borders and fixing the brain
            extraction. I
                        was just wondering if anyone has had the
            same
                        problem
                        or knows how to fix it (see message
            previously
                        posted below).

                        Thanks!

                        Hi Doug,

                        Sorry it's been a while since I've ran
            the initial
                        codes, but I think these are the labels
                        automatically
                        generated by Freesurfer v5.0 during
            recon-all
                        (correct me if I'm wrong). Here's what I
            ran below:

                        recon-all -all -notal-check -cw256
            -force -subjid
                        MB18 -i
            ~/Desktop/New_CT_niis/MB18.nii.gz

                        then

                        recon-all -force -s MB18 -qcache -i
                        ~/Desktop/New_CT_niis/MB18.nii.gz

                        I've checked a few more brains and
            noticed the same
                        problem. I've also noticed that the left
            hemisphere
                        is always worse than the right.  When
            opening the
                        brains in tkmedit, the labels are not
            continuous on
                        the
                        surface. Could this be the problem?  Is
            this label
                        the same as the Hinds label and if not,
            should I run
                        that instead?

                        Is possible to edit the label, and if
            so, how often
                        does one have to edit the labels
            automatically
                        created by freesurfer? I know that too
            much editing
                        can take away from the standardization
            of the
                        process
                        and I wouldn't want to mess with that
            too much.


                        Thanks!



                        On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Douglas
            N Greve
                        <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
                        >
                        > How did you do the transfer? What was
            your cmd
                        line?
                        > doug
                        >
                        > On 09/10/2013 05:31 PM, krista kelly
            wrote:
                        > > Hello,
                        > >
                        > > I am looking at cortical thickness
            and surface
                        area using Freesurfer.
                        > > I have transferred label V1 from
            freesurfer onto
                        the brains of my
                        > > participants and when I view them on
            the
                        inflated brains in tksurfer ,
                        > > I notice that there are holes in the
            label. Is
                        this an issue when
                        > > calculating mean cortical thickness
            and total
                        surface area
                        > > estimations? Should I fill these in
            somehow?
                        > >
                        > > I've attached a picture to show as
            an example.
                        Please let me know if
                        > > the picture cannot be viewed.
                        > >
                        > > Thanks!
                        > > Krista
                        > >
                        > >
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