Suppose the subjects were from a species of primate that has never been scanned before, and that native spheres have been found for each subject -- how would you create a sphere.reg for a bunch of subjects in that case?   From the webpage I mentioned, it seems that it suggests repeated applications of mris_make_template to increasingly large subsets of the original collection, but I can't tell from the webpage or the wiki for mris_make_template whether more than just native spheres and convexity information are needed.   Does the approach you refer to need any more than that?

Thanks,
David


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
I see. Usually we start with a sphere, and create a sphere.reg for a bunch of subjects, then remake the template with those

Bruce
On Tue, 3 Sep 2013, David Romano wrote:

Hi Bruce,

The workflow that I mentioned from the wiki is for creating a new template
in the absence of any ?.sphere.reg files;  here's relevant language from the
webpage:

----------------
"Creating a registration template from scratch (GW)

(This section reports on what I (GW) have learned of the registration
process from Bruce Fischl. and Doug Greve, along with reading the source
code. I have not actually tried it.)

The process of creating a template involves calculating a "mean" (across
subjects) pattern of curvature-related values, along with the variance of
these variables. This task is performed by program mris_make_template.
However, mris_make_template expects the input subjects to be already aligned
(ie: already have ?h.sphere.reg files). This of course will not be the case
if you are about to create a template!"
----------------

This is context for my question.

Thanks,
David



On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
wrote:
      Hi David

      usually you need a ?h.sphere.reg as the ?h.sphere files are in
      (arbitrary) spherical coordinates, while the ?h.sphere.reg ones
      are in registered ones

      cheers
      Bruce

      On Tue, 3 Sep 2013, David Romano wrote:

            Hi everyone,

            If I only have lh.sphere and lh.sulc files for each
            of collection of
            subjects, would this be enough information to
            generate a template for
            registering further subjects?  

            I was thinking of trying to follow the workflow
            described on the page:

                 
            https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/SurfaceRegAndTemplates

            (in the section titled "Creating a registration
            template from scratch
            (GW)"), but wasn't sure whether more than just
            native spherical coordinates
            and convexity information would be implicitly
            required by the
            mris_make_template command. (The "Positional
            Arguments" table that appears
            on the page:

                
            https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/mris_make_template

            only asks explicitly for references to the
            hemisphere data for a collection
            of subjects.)

            Thanks in advance for you help,
            David Romano

            (P.S.  There's also appers to be a typo in the
            "Positional Arguments" table
            I mentioned above:  In the description section for
            position 2, the {hemi}
            and {sphere_name} values seem to be reversed.)












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