Did you put -timewindow before -gammafit ?

On 9/12/19 6:08 AM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:

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Hi Doug,
apart from the question whether or not to set the timewindow parameter to 80 for MION responses, I noticed that there is a discrepancy between analysis.info and h.dat with regard to this parameter in v5.3.
If I set timewindow to 80 in mkanalysis-sess, it correctly prints this parameter into analysis.info. However, in h.dat for the same analysis, timewindow is 40.
I don't know if that is relevant, but it seems weird. Maybe it was already addressed in version 6.

Caspar

Am Di., 13. Aug. 2019 um 22:51 Uhr schrieb Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu>:
That is in response to a 60 sec stimulus. The time window is the time
needed to account for a very brief stimulus (ie, the impulse response).
fsfast will automatically take into account the duration of the stimulus
as listed in the paradigm file.

On 8/13/19 2:14 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:
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> Hi Doug,
> Thanks for the advice.
> I think the Leite et al. 2002 NeuroImage paper can be interpreted that
> way. See Figure 1 and 2.
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__pop.cerco.ups-2Dtlse.fr_pdf0609_leite-5Ffp-5F02-5F283.pdf&d=DwIGaQ&c=JeTkUgVztGMmhKYjxsy2rfoWYibK1YmxXez1G3oNStg&r=sgvCAzCi3iTXkTNRRVMpDnC6tu0lnijYpKXIX_UNme8&m=eAOAyZnFl2mF0kq1dbzrVLi05dYWhd00N8Sz06JBRgs&s=_NKVTMtmRmOeLrYx6styS12TMjsFNuVd2jKFxUKr85Y&e=
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> Caspar
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> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 17:12 Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D.
> <DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:
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>     When you use -gammafit, it automatically sets the time window to
>     40. If
>     you really want it at 80, but -timewindow before -gammafit. Do you
>     really expect the MION hrf to last 80 sec?
>
>     On 8/13/19 11:06 AM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:
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>     > Hi!
>     > I am having difficulties setting the timewindow parameter in
>     > mkanalysis-sess in Freesurfer v5.3.
>     > I am trying to use 80 (data acquired with MION), but the parameter
>     > does not seem to affect analysis.info <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__analysis.info&d=DwIGaQ&c=JeTkUgVztGMmhKYjxsy2rfoWYibK1YmxXez1G3oNStg&r=sgvCAzCi3iTXkTNRRVMpDnC6tu0lnijYpKXIX_UNme8&m=eAOAyZnFl2mF0kq1dbzrVLi05dYWhd00N8Sz06JBRgs&s=r6h1NqLGmsc3cSyXVgnrkGSvJNA79vDmmSjMUdNwGOA&e= >
>     <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__analysis.info&d=DwIGaQ&c=JeTkUgVztGMmhKYjxsy2rfoWYibK1YmxXez1G3oNStg&r=sgvCAzCi3iTXkTNRRVMpDnC6tu0lnijYpKXIX_UNme8&m=CYJUPBXH2fLSD5LjpZmYtjXWz_bC8zt7q5gobDE5VLs&s=Ba7XLDz4JrZXYf4-uKSwAzN0dCldTpp68Yck9EDkQ4s&e=
>     >, where it
>     > is always 40.
>     > Is it possible to force a different timewindow?
>     > Below is some info from analysis.info <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__analysis.info&d=DwIGaQ&c=JeTkUgVztGMmhKYjxsy2rfoWYibK1YmxXez1G3oNStg&r=sgvCAzCi3iTXkTNRRVMpDnC6tu0lnijYpKXIX_UNme8&m=eAOAyZnFl2mF0kq1dbzrVLi05dYWhd00N8Sz06JBRgs&s=r6h1NqLGmsc3cSyXVgnrkGSvJNA79vDmmSjMUdNwGOA&e= >
>     <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__analysis.info&d=DwIGaQ&c=JeTkUgVztGMmhKYjxsy2rfoWYibK1YmxXez1G3oNStg&r=sgvCAzCi3iTXkTNRRVMpDnC6tu0lnijYpKXIX_UNme8&m=CYJUPBXH2fLSD5LjpZmYtjXWz_bC8zt7q5gobDE5VLs&s=Ba7XLDz4JrZXYf4-uKSwAzN0dCldTpp68Yck9EDkQ4s&e=
>     >.
>     > Thanks, Caspar
>     >
>     >
>     > # FSBUILD freesurfer-Linux-centos6_x86_64-stable-pub-v5.3.0
>     > # MKAVERSION $Id: mkanalysis-sess,v 1.64.2.5 2013/01/22 21:52:07
>     greve
>     > Exp $
>     > # MKACMD /neuro_tools/freesurfer/fsfast/bin/mkanalysis-sess -fsd
>     bold
>     > -native -timeoffset -2/2 -event-related -paradigm xxxx.para
>     > -nconditions 4 -TR 2 -gammafit 0 8 -gammaexp 0.3 *-timewindow 80*
>     > -refeventdur 0.5 -polyfit 2 -hpf 0.0109 -analysis xxxx -funcstem
>     xxxx
>     > -runlistfile xxxx.list -nuisreg motion.dat 6 -tpef tpef.dat
>     -acfbins
>     > 14 -acffwhm 0 -mask xxxx -force
>     >
>     >
>     > analysis xxxx
>     > mcstem fmc
>     > funcstem xxxx
>     > fsd bold
>     > runlistfile xxxx.list
>     > TR 2
>     > RegDOF 6
>     > PerSession 1
>     > RawSpace volume native
>     > mask xxxx
>     > RawFWHM 0
>     > RawSTC none
>     > UseB0DC 0
>     > ApplySubCortMask 1
>     > inorm 100
>     > acfbins 14
>     > fixacf  1
>     > acffwhm 0
>     > acfsvd  0
>     > designtype event-related
>     > tpexclude tpef.dat
>     > nskip 0
>     > polyfit 2
>     > HPFCutoffHz 0.0109
>     > HeteroGCor 0
>     > nconditions 4
>     > parname xxxx.para
>     > RefEventDur 0.5
>     > *timewindow 40.000000*
>     > prestim 0
>     > TER 0.050000
>     > gamma 0 8 0.3 0
>     > stimulusdelay -2/2
>     > Condition 1 Condition01
>     > Condition 2 Condition02
>     > Condition 3 Condition03
>     > Condition 4 Condition04
>     > nuisreg motion.dat 6
>     >
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