Hi Bruce

Actually, the program is still running (running the last few stages), so the log file is not complete. But I can send you the log file which was generated by the older version (v4.3.0). I think these two log files might be similar as the results generated by these two version look similar too.

Once my recon-all program finishes, I may send you the log file generated by the latest version.

Thanks again for your help.

Angel

2009/10/13 Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
hmmm, no idea. Can you send me the recon-all.log file for that subject?

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Angel Wong wrote:

Hi Bruce

I have downloaded the latest version (v4.5.0) and tried again. But
unfortunately, I cannot reproduce the results same as yours. The new
generated results are similar to the results generated by the older version.
The command I used is

recon-all -i <directory that contains COR files> -s <subjectid> -sd
<subjects_dir> -all

and I viewed the images using

tkmedit <subjectid> brainmask.mgz lh.white -aux-surface rh.white

I am wondering why there is a big difference between your results and mine.
Is there any pre-setting needed before running the recon-all or additional
arguments needed during the processing?

Cheers
Angel

2009/10/11 Angel Wong <angel.delver@gmail.com>

Hi Nick

Thanks for your suggestion. I will look at it in detail later.

Angel

2009/10/10 Nick Schmansky <nicks@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>

Angel,

I noticed you have problems with some remaining dura in your images. you
might want to try a new utility that is being tested for inclusion in a
future release.  Its from a group in Singapore, and does a good job
removing dura.  Its called:

mri_gcut

and can be downloaded for the linux and mac platforms from here:

ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/misc/

copy it to your $FREESURFER_HOME/bin

usage (with reference to paper) is found in:

mri_gcut --help

and intended usage is:

cd subjid/mri
mri_gcut -110 -mult brainmask.mgz T1.mgz brainmask.mgz

then run:

recon-all -s subjid -autorecon2 -autorecon3

but of course inspect the brainmask.mgz to see if actually helped.

(bruce, can you point me at her image?  i can run it locally)

Nick

On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 21:46 +0800, Angel Wong wrote:
My version is 4.3.0. I will download the latest version and try again.

Thank you.

2009/10/10 Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
       I didn't do anything but run recon-all with the latest
       version. Remind me what version you were running?


       On Sat, 10 Oct 2009, Angel Wong wrote:

               Hi Bruce

               Thank you very much. The result looks much better than
               mine. How did you do
               that? Please let me know so that I can modify the
               other datasets if I face
               the same situation again.

               Cheers
               Angel

               2009/10/10 Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>

                       Hi Angel,

                       I'm just about done running the dataset and
                       the results actually look ok
                       (see attached tif). I didn't intervene at all,
                       although you would want to to
                       get rid of some non-brain tissue that the pial
                       surface is grabbing, but
                       that's pretty easy. Did you minimize your TE?
                       I don't know what your
                       gradient set is, but usually you can get your
                       TE down a bit more than that.
                       You also might be better off sacrificing a bit
                       of resolution and lengthening
                       your TR
                        cheers,
                       Bruce


                       On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Angel Wong wrote:

                        Thanks a lot with your help. This is because
                       we want to perform quite a
                               number of functional runs on the same
                               subject at the same session. So we
                               tried to shorten the T1 scan time to
                               minimize the motion artifacts come
                               from
                               the subject.

                               Attached please find the orig.mgz for
                               your information.

                               2009/10/8 Bruce Fischl
                               <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>

                                I see. Your TR is quite short and
                               your TE relatively long, so this is
                                       probably pretty poor CNR
                                       between gray and white. If you
                                       send me the
                                       orig.mgz
                                       I'll take a look and see if
                                       it's fixable

                                       On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Angel Wong
                                       wrote:

                                        Hi Bruce


                                               Attached please find
                                               the parameters for
                                               acquiring the T1
                                               image.

                                               Thank you for your
                                               help.

                                               Angel

                                               2009/10/8 Bruce Fischl
                                               <
fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>

                                                eek, that looks
                                               pretty bad. Can you
                                               tell us what the
                                               acquisition

                                                       parameters
                                                       are?

                                                       On Thu, 8 Oct
                                                       2009, Angel
                                                       Wong wrote:

                                                        Dear all




                                                               Actually
I would like to perform automated reconstruction for my T1
                                                               image
                                                               and
                                                               then
                                                               obtain

anatomical labels after cortical parcellation. I have
                                                               done
                                                               fully

automated reconstruction using recon-all. But for my case, the
                                                               white
                                                               and
                                                               grey
                                                               matter

segmentation appears to be weird. The green line seems
                                                               laying
                                                               on the
                                                               pial
                                                               surface
rather than on the white surface, and the
                                                               red
                                                               line
                                                               seems

including some non-brain structures (including small
                                                               portion
                                                               of
                                                               CSF
                                                               and
                                                               skull).
Thus, the resultant cortical thickness appears to be
                                                               very
                                                               thin
                                                               after
                                                               the

segmentation. I just doubt if anything was going wrong
                                                               during
                                                               the

procedure. Or need any preprocessing to enhance the segmentation
                                                               quality
                                                               before

performing the reconstruction? If you have had similar

situation
                                                               as
                                                               mine,
                                                               please
                                                               let me
                                                               know
                                                               how to
                                                               tackle
                                                               the
                                                               problem.

                                                               Attached
please find the images for better illustration.


fs_image_brain.tiff - use brain.mgz as aux volume

fs_image_norm.tiff - use norm.mgz as aux volume

fs_image_brainmask.tiff - use brainmask.mgz as aux volume and load

segmentation file aseg.mgz

                                                               Thanks
                                                               Angel





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