[Mne_analysis] mapping between the mne and freesurfer vertex labelling systems

Fawad Jamshed fj247 at cam.ac.uk
Mon Mar 24 09:32:45 EDT 2014
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Thanks guys I managed to fix this problem by plugging the average brain they
have used. The problem was different average brain were used by different
STC  files. 


Regards,
Fawad
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From: alexandre.gramfort at gmail.com [mailto:alexandre.gramfort at gmail.com] On
Behalf Of Alexandre Gramfort
Sent: 18 March 2014 21:34
To: Fawad Jamshed
Cc: dgw; mne_analysis at nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Mne_analysis] mapping between the mne and freesurfer vertex
labelling systems

hi,

> One of the toolbox I am using make use of fsaverage but I am not too sure
what was used for the other STCs(as they were processed by someone else a
while ago). I tried to plug our stc files with a graphical display of the
other toolbox and most/all of the activity is mapped on to occipital area  I
re-process the raw data again using fsaverage and stcs files got mapped real
nicely. I think the problem might be due to different vertex labelling
system - our STC files use the MNE labelling system (used by default using
the MNE_make_movie command in MNE suite), while I think other one uses the
Freesurfer vertex labels right the way through?

MNE labels and vertice numbers (vertno in MNE jargon) are the same as
freesurfer. If the STC has values on the occipital regions then it's defined
on fsaverage.

Hope this helps,
Alex


>  So basically I was looking for a one to one mapping between these 
> vertices systems that will save me lot of time that otherwise would be 
> spent on pre-processing all our data. I have copied STC files (both 
> new and old) and some images on to the dropbox (if you want to see 
> them). https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7vzdxvt6gq38771/k7XvSdOBkX
>
> Kind Regards,
> Fawad
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: dgw [mailto:dgwakeman at gmail.com]
> Sent: 07 March 2014 19:03
> To: Fawad Jamshed
> Cc: mne_analysis at nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Subject: Re: [Mne_analysis] mapping between the mne and freesurfer 
> vertex labelling systems
>
> Hi Fawad,
>
> This depends on what brain these stcs were created. MNE and FreeSurfer use
the same vertex labeling. It is possible to create stcs on fsaverage (or
even some other common average brain), and have a direct mapping between
them. Can you tell us more about the two stc files?
> What brain were they created on an individual in your group or fsaverage?
Is that true of both files?
>
> D
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Fawad Jamshed <fj247 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have received from an external group some STC files that have been 
>> created using the vertex labelling system of freesurfer. (i.e.
>> starting from the occipital pole and spiralling toward the front). I 
>> want to compare these with our 'in house' results, which use the MNE 
>> vertex labelling system ('loose' spirals, with each pass filling in 
>> gaps between the spirals for use in different resolutions). I suspect 
>> there is a simple mapping between the two vertex labelling systems ..
>> is this the case, and, if so, could someone point me to where I might
find it?
>>
>> Any advice/script/literature would be helpful. Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Fawad
>>
>>
>>
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