[Mne_analysis] Morph dipole to fsaverage brain
Marijn van Vliet
w.m.vanvliet at gmail.com
Wed Aug 26 09:42:54 EDT 2020
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Hi Eric,
if I morph the dipoles to MNI space (mne.head_to_mni(dip.pos)) and throw them on
top of an fsaverage brain with brain.add_foci(morphed_dip_pos), I don't get
reasonable results, points are floating way outside of the brain. They are sort
of aligned on the brain, so origin point may be reasonable, but the scaling I
wouldn't exactly call close enough.
Making compute_source_morph work for discrete source spaces would be a great
solution. But that sounds hard :)
best,
Marijn.
On 26/08/2020 15.45, Eric Larson wrote:
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> fsaverage is in MNI space, so you should be able to use that affine if you want.
> If they don't land in the right place it suggests some problem with how you're
> applying the transformation or a problem return the transformation itself, which
> you could manually adjust using tkregister (then probably rerun the subsequent
> recon steps) or something similar.
>
> If you want to go beyond affine, you could use the SDR volumetric transformation
> code in compute_source_morph. You could try using a full 1mm MRI resolution, but
> this might run into memory problems. You could code it yourself if you want to
> try it from reading the MNE code, but you have to be careful about the
> coordinate frames.
>
> We could extend compute_source_morph to work with discrete source spaces using
> this full-resolution MRI intermediate approach. Then you could set up each
> subjects one dipole (or as many ECDs add you have) as a discrete source space
> with one element, and morph it/them.
>
> Eric
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> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 07:52 Alexandre Gramfort <alexandre.gramfort at inria.fr
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> hi,
>
> how do you want to visualize this? you can go from MNI to fsaverage
> surface RAS but the dipole will not be positioned on the surface.
>
> Alex
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> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:47 PM Christian Kiefer
> <ch.kiefer at fz-juelich.de <mailto:ch.kiefer at fz-juelich.de>> wrote:
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> > Hi Marijn,
> >
> > Is morph = mne.compute_source_morph() and morph.apply() what you are
> > looking for?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Christian
> >
> > On 26.08.20 13:41, Marijn van Vliet wrote:
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> > > Dear MNE-Python community,
> > >
> > > I have a bunch of dipoles that were fitted in the brains of several
> subjects.
> > > Now I want to visualize the locations of all these dipoles in a shared
> brain.
> > > Is there a way to morph the positions of the dipoles from the individual
> > > subjects to a template brain, for example fsaverage?
> > >
> > > I see that there is a head_to_mni function that will convert the
> position to MNI
> > > space. That is close, but does not match fsaverage space. Or is there a
> way to
> > > visualize the MNI brain in a 3d sort of way (not MRI image slices)?
> > >
> > > best,
> > > Marijn.
> > >
> >
> >
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