[Mne_analysis] DICS_wrong_hemisphere_reconstruction {Disarmed}

Wed Dec 2 15:59:14 EST 2020

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do you have an evoked component to localize with the same subject and
forward model to check?

Alex

On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 5:26 PM Edoardo Pinzuti <edoardo.pinzuti at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> We checked with the lcmv also in Fieldtrip and results were confirmed, so
> there was no effect of the DICS bug.  I still get the maximum peak frontal
> but in the opposite hemisphere. Do you have another idea where there could
> be a flip right/ left ? mri conventions, coordinates and so on
>
> thanks
>
> Il giorno mar 1 dic 2020 alle ore 14:54 Eric Larson <
> larson.eric.d at gmail.com> ha scritto:
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>> Those seem okay. Also check to make sure your FieldTrip DICS result was
>> not affected by this bug:
>>
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>>
>> We are currently working on making sure FieldTrip and MNE produce
>> consistent beamforminng results -- so far LCMV is consistent now but DICS
>> is still a work in progress.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 7:52 AM Alexandre Gramfort <
>> alexandre.gramfort at inria.fr> wrote:
>>
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>>> hi,
>>>
>>> it's really hard to tell without looking at the 2 codes (fieldtrip and
>>> mne)
>>>
>>> first thing I would check is that the forward models are valid using
>>>
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>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 1:16 PM Edoardo Pinzuti <
>>> edoardo.pinzuti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
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>>>> Dear Mne team,
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to reproduce a DICS source reconstruction in beta band
>>>> obtained in Fieldtrip, to validate the pipeline. I get a weird  result
>>>> because the expected right frontal activation that occurs in Fieldtrip is
>>>> located in the left hemisphere in MNE (see the pictures). It looks like the
>>>> hemispheres are swapped. (Fieldtrip result match fmri activation on the
>>>> same study).
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any idea what could be causing this?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Edoardo
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>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 8:49 AM Edoardo Pinzuti <edoardo.pinzuti at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
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>>> Hi Alex,
>>>
>>> I used the function you suggest, it looks fine no ?
>>>
>>> Il giorno mar 1 dic 2020 alle ore 13:52 Alexandre Gramfort <
>>> alexandre.gramfort at inria.fr> ha scritto:
>>>
>>>>         External Email - Use Caution
>>>>
>>>> hi,
>>>>
>>>> it's really hard to tell without looking at the 2 codes (fieldtrip and
>>>> mne)
>>>>
>>>> first thing I would check is that the forward models are valid using
>>>>
>>>> *MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from
>>>> "secure-web.cisco.com" claiming to be*
>>>> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1_QcD1eXOU1HTS3dWkyADZqzCgxpj4VPKBqb9i0D5u34056G81I2YQWIWTQNs9PbrC0HXLcMLCY4f8aK_TY35BF2URKTBwiMj7rt0lPtMutTJpOsgYqaLehPdA3nIhx7L6ml65uSpl26RbIdoV3x9SImeYmMykctLquI3bShwEPR7X4bCeyThzVDRxLiP9Y1MhwZ0-MgXINnSq_9ga4Xn3DhdHYv0BTwY5_3mVfBbKGc8iV34awYFeUul65yhxiqfhz8pqfRhhuXOuDmtW-lLBg/https%3A%2F%2Fmne.tools%2Fstable%2Fgenerated%2Fmne.sensitivity_map.html
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>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 1:16 PM Edoardo Pinzuti <
>>>> edoardo.pinzuti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>         External Email - Use Caution
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Mne team,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to reproduce a DICS source reconstruction in beta band
>>>>> obtained in Fieldtrip, to validate the pipeline. I get a weird  result
>>>>> because the expected right frontal activation that occurs in Fieldtrip is
>>>>> located in the left hemisphere in MNE (see the pictures). It looks like the
>>>>> hemispheres are swapped. (Fieldtrip result match fmri activation on the
>>>>> same study).
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have any idea what could be causing this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Edoardo
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Mne_analysis mailing list
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