<div dir="ltr">Hi Chris,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the info, this really helps in understanding the whole procedures. So as I understand, reference is only a required step for source localization, but not any other steps like measuring the connectivity between brain regions. Sounds reference removed the DC componets but remains the oscillation. If so, does it influence the power in DC components? Also, does it matter the conventional source localization methods such as dipole fitting?</div><div><br></div><div>Really appreciate for help,</div><div><br></div><div>Mengting</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-09-25 4:55 GMT-04:00 Christopher Bailey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cjb@cfin.au.dk" target="_blank">cjb@cfin.au.dk</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>The average reference is the only valid scheme when performing ‘source localisation’, no matter what you do afterwards. To first order, the localisation procedure is</div>
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<div>- build forward model that computes sensor-level readings for know sources</div>
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<div>- minimise prediction error under chosen prior/model</div>
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<div>The predicted data are calculated relative to a hypothetical absolute reference potential of zero at infinity, whereas a real dataset could be referenced to a number of points on the head. To be able to compare the two datasets, both are re-referenced
to their respective average: the average reference <i>does not depend on the location of the on-line reference electrode</i> (as long as it was functioning properly). After this re-scaling, the values can be compared directly.</div>
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<div>Note that like any (proper) re-referencing procedure, taking the common average only shifts the zero-point; relative differences between electrode readings remain unaltered.</div>
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<div>On 24 Sep 2017, at 01.28, Liu Mengting <<a href="mailto:bigting84@gmail.com" target="_blank">bigting84@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hello MNE users,
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<div>I noticed that in MNE inverse operations, all EEG data were forced by an average referencing. </div>
<div>Does anyone has insight about how does the average reference influence the inverse operations in MNE (I mean use dSPM or sLoreta)? Especially would this average referencing influence functional connectivity measure in source space (e.g. using
phase locking)?</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Mengting</div>
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