[Mne_analysis] Advantages of using "average EEG reference" in mne_browse_raw?
Daniel Goldenholz
daniel at nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Thu Mar 5 17:48:09 EST 2009
People that read EEG "by hand" use multiple references because it gives
different views of the data.
That is because humans can't see the physics.
Daniel Goldenholz MD, PhD
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On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Yury Petrov <y.petrov at neu.edu> wrote:
> Hi Andres,
>
> In physics the reference point for electric potentials is usually chosen to
> be in the infinity, which is a nice choice, because it is unique and makes
> sense otherwise. However, choosing reference point on the head surface is
> necessary to remove electrical environmental noise from EEG. To simplify
> matters, let's assume that EEG activity recorded on the scalp reflects only
> the neuronal activity in the (small) underlying part of cortex. By using
> referencing you effectively compare the activity under a given electrode
> with activity elsewhere in cortex. What is better for your purpose: to
> compare it with average cortical activity, or with cortical activity in the
> vicinity of your reference electrode(s)? It's up to you to decide, really.
> In practical terms, referencing to one or two electrodes means that signal
> on nearby electrodes will be weaker and, thus, less informative than on
> remote electrodes. Also, keep in mind that the particular choice of
> reference is immaterial for source localization: the result will be the
> same.
>
> Best,
> Yury
>
>
> On Mar 5, 2009, at Mar 5, 2009 | 5:18 PM, Andres Felipe Salazar Gomez
> wrote:
>
> Hi MNE users,
>>
>> This might sound a very naive question but I will ask it anyway since I
>> want to have it clear in order to avoid affecting all my analysis:
>>
>> When calculating the average signals in mne_browse_raw or mne_process_raw
>> I have the option of turning off the projection (usually the average EEG
>> reference). The basic idea of an average EEG reference seems to be a
>> reasonable thing to do. Nevertheless, doing this changes, sometimes very
>> drastically, the waveforms.
>>
>> How strong would anyone recommend me to use the average EEG reference?
>> Is there any situation in which using the average EEG reference is not the
>> appropriate path to follow?
>>
>> Thank you very much for your collaboration,
>>
>> --
>> Andres F. Salazar
>> Research Technologist
>> Neuroscience Statistics Research Laboratory
>> asalazar at nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> 149 13th Street, Room 4005
>> Charlestown, MA 02129
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