Dear all,
starting from the version of March of this year, FreeSurfer supports the use of co-acquired FLAIR images to separate the dura from the gray matter. Some years ago, the idea about solving the same problem was to use multi-echo MPRAGE images. I am starting a new project, in which I am planning to acquire structural images, and I would like to know something more about these two ways of addressing the dura problem.
-- is there any experience on the superiority of the FLAIR approach, or is there any published evaluation of it / comparison with the MEMPRAGE approach (such as the van der Kouwer et al. 2008 paper on the MEMPRAGE) (I looked for it in scholar.google but could not find it)
-- are you planning to support the multi echo approach in the future, or is it going to be discontinued
I will also be very interested to hear from anyone who has had any experience with the FLAIR approach, or both.
Best wishes, Roberto
Roberto Viviani University of Ulm, Germany
Hi Roberto
I think a T2-space FLAIR is your best bet. We have very little experience with other FLAIR and/or/ T2s, but those seem to work well. They are *much* higher SNR than the T2* maps that one can get from an memprage where the last echo is only around 7ms.
cheers Bruce On Sat, 14 Dec 2013, roberto.viviani@uni-ulm.de wrote:
Dear all,
starting from the version of March of this year, FreeSurfer supports the use of co-acquired FLAIR images to separate the dura from the gray matter. Some years ago, the idea about solving the same problem was to use multi-echo MPRAGE images. I am starting a new project, in which I am planning to acquire structural images, and I would like to know something more about these two ways of addressing the dura problem.
-- is there any experience on the superiority of the FLAIR approach, or is there any published evaluation of it / comparison with the MEMPRAGE approach (such as the van der Kouwer et al. 2008 paper on the MEMPRAGE) (I looked for it in scholar.google but could not find it)
-- are you planning to support the multi echo approach in the future, or is it going to be discontinued
I will also be very interested to hear from anyone who has had any experience with the FLAIR approach, or both.
Best wishes, Roberto
Roberto Viviani University of Ulm, Germany
Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
I only have anecdotal evidence based on 4 subjects, but I found that using the FLAIR results in much better surface reconstruction than the multiecho. In my experience (with kids age 12-16), the pial surface was underestimated when I used the multiecho.
________________________________________ From: freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu [freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Bruce Fischl [fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 1:10 PM To: roberto.viviani@uni-ulm.de Cc: Andre van der Kouwe; Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu; Eberhard.Pracht@dzne.de Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Dura/pial reconstruction: FLAIR vs. multiecho
Hi Roberto
I think a T2-space FLAIR is your best bet. We have very little experience with other FLAIR and/or/ T2s, but those seem to work well. They are *much* higher SNR than the T2* maps that one can get from an memprage where the last echo is only around 7ms.
cheers Bruce On Sat, 14 Dec 2013, roberto.viviani@uni-ulm.de wrote:
Dear all,
starting from the version of March of this year, FreeSurfer supports the use of co-acquired FLAIR images to separate the dura from the gray matter. Some years ago, the idea about solving the same problem was to use multi-echo MPRAGE images. I am starting a new project, in which I am planning to acquire structural images, and I would like to know something more about these two ways of addressing the dura problem.
-- is there any experience on the superiority of the FLAIR approach, or is there any published evaluation of it / comparison with the MEMPRAGE approach (such as the van der Kouwer et al. 2008 paper on the MEMPRAGE) (I looked for it in scholar.google but could not find it)
-- are you planning to support the multi echo approach in the future, or is it going to be discontinued
I will also be very interested to hear from anyone who has had any experience with the FLAIR approach, or both.
Best wishes, Roberto
Roberto Viviani University of Ulm, Germany
Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
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