Freesurfer November 2011

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Freesurfer - problem with automatic labeling of V1 using the Hinds method in 5.1.0
by Andrew Bock 08 Mar '13

08 Mar '13

Hello, I am having a similar problem to one described on the freesurfer mail archive, where I receive the following error when trying to identify V1 using the Hinds method (i.e. recon-all -s <subject> -label_v1): processing subject V1_average... MRISreadVertexPosition(white): could not open file /usr/local/freesurfer/ subjects/V1_average/surf/rh.white No such file or directory MRISreadOriginalProperties: could not read surface file white No such file or directory could not read surface positions from white No such file or directory As Prof. Krish Singh indicated in July, it appears the problem occurs when trying to open rh.white (or lh.white) from the surf subdirectory in V1_average, which doesn't exist. I have run recon-all -s <subject> -make all, but it returns "make: Nothing to be done for `all'." Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance, Andrew -- Andrew Bock, Ph.D. Department of Psychology University of Washington Seattle, WA 98195 Tel: 206.543.3817 Fax: 206.685.3157 abock(a)u.washington.edu

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flipping surface data
by kelsi 04 Dec '12

04 Dec '12

Hi Freesurfers, Is there a tool to flip the orientation of surface data to the opposite hemisphere? We are working with stroke patients, and I would like to do analysis of the contralesional hemisphere of all the patients. However, this requires putting them on the same hemisphere for ttests, etc. I saw an earlier thread online about a program for flipping in the works, I was just wondering if this is now possible? Thank you! Kelsi

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Re: [Freesurfer] integrating FSL and Freesurfer
by noam Schneck 09 Oct '12

09 Oct '12

Hi Doug Here are more detailed versions of my first two questions. 1) I used tkmedit to look at the mean_func produced by a gfeat analysis of one subject's three functional runs overlayed onto the anatomical image produced by recon-all on that same subject(bert/mri/orig.mgz). The registration matrix I used was the anat2std.dat that was produced by running reg-feat2anat on all three of the feat analyses from the individual runs. When I did this I saw that the mean_func image was outside the boundaries of the anatomical image. Correspondingly, when I overlayed the zstat.nii.gz from the gfeat analysis onto the anatomical image I had activation outside of the anatomical image brain. 2) Originally, I ran BBR on a subject that I had run Recon-all for. I used BBR to register the example_func.nii.gz to the bert/mri/orig.mgz. I had BBR output an fsl.mat. I then used ApplyXFM in fsl to apply BBR's fsl.mat to register the example_func.nii.gz onto a T1 image that had been created by converting bert/mri/brainmask.mgz into niftii with mri_convert. I tried it again, this time converting the orig.mgz to niftii. In both cases the example_func in T1 space image produced by ApplyXFM is rotated about 90 degrees and also inverted. This is viewed in fslview, The corresponding T1 images created by mri_convert are not. What can I do to allow me to use BBR's fsl.mat within ApplyXFM?

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label transformation to MNI space
by Linda Douw 05 Jul '12

05 Jul '12

Hi all, I am trying to transform some labels from the aparc to masks in MNI space. Ideally, I would like to do this for each subject in my study individually (using their own rawavg.mgz and labels), but for now I started out with fsaverage. I first converted the label file into a nifti: mri_label2vol --label ./fsaverage/label/lh.entorhinal.label --subject fsaverage --temp ./fsaverage/mri/brainmask.mgz --o lh_entorhinal.nii.gz --identity And then put the nifti file containing the label into MNI space: mri_vol2vol --mov lh_entorhinal.nii.gz --targ MNI152_T1_2mm.brain.nii.gz --o lh_entorhinal_MNI.nii.gz --reg $FREESURFER_HOME/average/mni152.register.dat But when I open lh_entorhinal_MNI.nii.gz with fslview, the location is completely wrong. I checked the location with tkregister as well: tkregister2 --mov lh_entorhinal_MNI.nii.gz --reg /$FREESURFER_HOME/average/mni152.register.dat But here the entorhinal was also in the wrong place. Do you know how to fix this? Thanks, -- Linda Douw, PhD.

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Re: [Freesurfer] ERROR: comparison in expression (FS with SGE)
by Xue, Feng 19 May '12

19 May '12

Sorry, I didn't notice that the reply address was not the list, I've done re-post it. Is there any method to check whether it is ok? For SGE, it might only write errors to dot e files instead of warnings. It seemed like a shell syntax error, however, I don't have that experience to check the recon-all script. On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Bruce Fischl <fischl(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote: > can you post this to the list? There are others better qualified to say > what's going on. But if everything finished ok is there really a problem? > Maybe this is just a warning? > On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, Xue, Feng wrote: > >> Hi Bruce, >> >> Thanks for your reply. The recon-all.log said it finished without >> error. please find the whole scripts root in the attachment. >> I'm also running a raw testing with one subject and without SGEяяMaybe >> I can report the result the day after tomorrow. >> >> BTW, I found in my 64bit Debian nodes, I repeated got the error as below >> (standard_in) 2: Error: comparison in expression >> but in 32bit, I met both. >> >> for the GMail security restriction, I changed recon-all.cmd in the >> attachment to recon-all.cmds. >> >> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Bruce Fischl >> <fischl(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote: >>> >>> what does the recon-all.log say? Did the recon finish correctly? Does >>> this >>> happen if you just run it on the command line? >>> Bruce >>> >>> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Xue, Feng wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Bruce & FS experts, >>>> >>>> Please forgive my re-post, for I havn't got any response from last post. >>>> I do appreciate if anyone could give me a hint or suggestion. >>>> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> >>>> We are running freesurfer with Sun GridEngine. Currently, we >>>> repeatedly got this error in SGE's job error log file on some data >>>> when doing recon_all: >>>> >>>> $ cat recon_xf.e437 >>>> (standard_in) 2: Error: comparison in expression >>>> $ cat recon_xf.e431 >>>> (standard_in) 2: comparison in expression >>>> >>>> I also checked the recon-all-status.log file, but not error was found. >>>> >>>> Has anyone met this problem? Is it critical? >>>> Thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best Regards >>>> >>>> Xue, Feng Phd. candidate >>>> Major in Developmental Cognitive Neuroscience >>>> >>>> National Key Laboratory of Cognitive Neuroscience and Learning >>>> Beijing Normal University >>>> Beijing, China. 100875 >>>> Tel: +86-13810154455 >>>> web: http://psychbrain.bnu.edu.cn >>>> ============================================== >>>> Welcome to MuDuo JinSheng BBS @ Beijing Normal University >>>> telnet://bbs.mdjs.org >>>> http://bbs.mdjs.org >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Freesurfer mailing list >>>> Freesurfer(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu >>>> https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it >>> is >>> addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the >>> e-mail >>> contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance >>> HelpLine at >>> http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in >>> error >>> but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and >>> properly >>> dispose of the e-mail. >>> >>> >> >> >> > -- Best Regards Xue, Feng Phd. candidate Major in Developmental Cognitive Neuroscience National Key Laboratory of Cognitive Neuroscience and Learning Beijing Normal University Beijing, China. 100875 Tel: +86-13810154455 web: http://psychbrain.bnu.edu.cn ============================================== Welcome to MuDuo JinSheng BBS @ Beijing Normal University telnet://bbs.mdjs.org http://bbs.mdjs.org

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ICV
by Dusan Hirjak 23 Feb '12

23 Feb '12

Dear Freesurfer experts, I am a beginner in using Freesurfer. I was wondering if ICV should be treated as a potential confounder (such as age, education, chlorpromazine equivalents and duration of illness) in the statistical analysis of volumetric data/cortical thickness? Thanks in advance! Dusan

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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer Digest, Vol 75, Issue 15
by Sebastian Moeller 19 Jan '12

19 Jan '12

Hi Fred, yu probably checked the following already, but on the off chance you have not... Maybe you have set X11 to 256 color mode? Start X11.app (from /Applications/Utilities) go to the X11 menu, select Preferences..., switch to the tab called output and see what is selected for Colors. If it is set to 256 Colors you have your root cause, just switch to something higher and all should be fine. best Sebastian On May 9, 2010, at 9:00 AM, freesurfer-request(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote: > Send Freesurfer mailing list submissions to > freesurfer(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freesurfer-request(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > freesurfer-owner(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Freesurfer digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. tksurfer/tkmedit display color fix in OSX 10.6? (Fred Dick) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 15:34:35 +0100 > From: Fred Dick <fdick(a)crl.ucsd.edu> > Subject: [Freesurfer] tksurfer/tkmedit display color fix in OSX 10.6? > To: freesurfer(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > Message-ID: <873B33F2-3339-4871-9395-1EFEEC1EFAAB(a)crl.ucsd.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear all > > This is a pretty minor issue (except for figure making) - but has anyone experienced and then fixed a display problem in tksurfer/tkmedit in OSX 10.6 (possibly also 10.5) where graphics seem to be drawn only with 256 colors, thereby giving images a kind of contour-plot look? (See attached image below). [Running 10.6.3, i686-apple-darwin10-gcc-4.2.1, tksurfer 1.309 (yes, older), tkmedit v 1.330] > > I looked around the mail archives but didn't see anyone else commenting on this, but do know someone else having the same issue, so would be happy for any suggestions. > > Thanks, > Fred > > >

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downsampling 4D volume
by ythomas 10 Jan '12

10 Jan '12

Hi, I am trying to downsample a 4D volume using mri_convert. However, it seems to be killing the 4 dimension. For example, if I do mri_convert -voxsize 4 4 4 tmp.mgz tmp444.mgz The original volume which is 256 x 256 x 256 x 120 becomes 64 x 64 x 64. Thanks, Thomas

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anterior temporal lobe problems
by Michael Harms 10 Jan '12

10 Jan '12

Hi guys, We have a sample of 150+ pediatric brains that we pumped through FS 5.1, and in an easy majority of them the white/pial surface accuracy in the anterior temporal lobe is poor. I know that this is an area where problems have frequently been reported. What is it about that area in particular that makes it difficult to get accurate surfaces? (Is the contrast and SNR in that area inherently worse?) And, short of a large time commitment of control point and wm.mgz editing, are there any flags/tweaks that we could attempt to fix the problem in a more automatic fashion? thanks, -MH -- Michael Harms, Ph.D. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Conte Center for the Neuroscience of Mental Disorders Washington University School of Medicine Department of Psychiatry, Box 8134 Renard Hospital, Room 6604 Tel: 314-747-6173 660 South Euclid Ave. Fax: 314-747-2182 St. Louis, MO 63110 Email: mharms(a)wustl.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------

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resampled image of the diffusion data to structural data
by Antonella Kis 05 Dec '11

05 Dec '11

Dear FS experts, 1) From dt_recon --help I found that: Registration of lowb to same-subject anatomical using FSLs flirt creates mask.nii and register.dat I would appreciate if you can let me know if mask.nii is theresampled image of any of my diffusion related files in the structural space. If not what is the name of this resampled image after I ran dt_recon? Do I need to have the resampled image of my diffusion data to the structural space before I run the GLM group analysis in TAL space? 2) How can I get the TAL_to_avg35 template? 3) How can I analyze my GLM group analysis, or how can I find if there are clusters that survived after multiple comparison. What I see on the dt_recon webpage is: mri_concat */mask-tal.nii --o group-masksum-tal.nii --mean mri_binarize --i group-masksum-tal.nii --min .999 --o group-mask-tal.nii mri_glmfit --y group-fa-tal.nii --mask group-mask-tal.nii\ --fsgd your.fsgd --C contrast --glmdir groupanadir What is the meaning of the 0.99n value? Can you please advise me how to do my data analysis for this GLM group study of my DTI data? THANK YOU! Antonella

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Freesurfer November 2011