Freesurfer March 2011

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Re: [Freesurfer] ERROR: comparison in expression (FS with SGE)
by Xue, Feng 19 May '12

19 May '12

Sorry, I didn't notice that the reply address was not the list, I've done re-post it. Is there any method to check whether it is ok? For SGE, it might only write errors to dot e files instead of warnings. It seemed like a shell syntax error, however, I don't have that experience to check the recon-all script. On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Bruce Fischl <fischl(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote: > can you post this to the list? There are others better qualified to say > what's going on. But if everything finished ok is there really a problem? > Maybe this is just a warning? > On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, Xue, Feng wrote: > >> Hi Bruce, >> >> Thanks for your reply. The recon-all.log said it finished without >> error. please find the whole scripts root in the attachment. >> I'm also running a raw testing with one subject and without SGEяяMaybe >> I can report the result the day after tomorrow. >> >> BTW, I found in my 64bit Debian nodes, I repeated got the error as below >> (standard_in) 2: Error: comparison in expression >> but in 32bit, I met both. >> >> for the GMail security restriction, I changed recon-all.cmd in the >> attachment to recon-all.cmds. >> >> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Bruce Fischl >> <fischl(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote: >>> >>> what does the recon-all.log say? Did the recon finish correctly? Does >>> this >>> happen if you just run it on the command line? >>> Bruce >>> >>> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Xue, Feng wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Bruce & FS experts, >>>> >>>> Please forgive my re-post, for I havn't got any response from last post. >>>> I do appreciate if anyone could give me a hint or suggestion. >>>> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> >>>> We are running freesurfer with Sun GridEngine. Currently, we >>>> repeatedly got this error in SGE's job error log file on some data >>>> when doing recon_all: >>>> >>>> $ cat recon_xf.e437 >>>> (standard_in) 2: Error: comparison in expression >>>> $ cat recon_xf.e431 >>>> (standard_in) 2: comparison in expression >>>> >>>> I also checked the recon-all-status.log file, but not error was found. >>>> >>>> Has anyone met this problem? Is it critical? >>>> Thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best Regards >>>> >>>> Xue, Feng Phd. candidate >>>> Major in Developmental Cognitive Neuroscience >>>> >>>> National Key Laboratory of Cognitive Neuroscience and Learning >>>> Beijing Normal University >>>> Beijing, China. 100875 >>>> Tel: +86-13810154455 >>>> web: http://psychbrain.bnu.edu.cn >>>> ============================================== >>>> Welcome to MuDuo JinSheng BBS @ Beijing Normal University >>>> telnet://bbs.mdjs.org >>>> http://bbs.mdjs.org >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Freesurfer mailing list >>>> Freesurfer(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu >>>> https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it >>> is >>> addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the >>> e-mail >>> contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance >>> HelpLine at >>> http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in >>> error >>> but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and >>> properly >>> dispose of the e-mail. >>> >>> >> >> >> > -- Best Regards Xue, Feng Phd. candidate Major in Developmental Cognitive Neuroscience National Key Laboratory of Cognitive Neuroscience and Learning Beijing Normal University Beijing, China. 100875 Tel: +86-13810154455 web: http://psychbrain.bnu.edu.cn ============================================== Welcome to MuDuo JinSheng BBS @ Beijing Normal University telnet://bbs.mdjs.org http://bbs.mdjs.org

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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer Digest, Vol 75, Issue 15
by Sebastian Moeller 19 Jan '12

19 Jan '12

Hi Fred, yu probably checked the following already, but on the off chance you have not... Maybe you have set X11 to 256 color mode? Start X11.app (from /Applications/Utilities) go to the X11 menu, select Preferences..., switch to the tab called output and see what is selected for Colors. If it is set to 256 Colors you have your root cause, just switch to something higher and all should be fine. best Sebastian On May 9, 2010, at 9:00 AM, freesurfer-request(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote: > Send Freesurfer mailing list submissions to > freesurfer(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freesurfer-request(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > freesurfer-owner(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Freesurfer digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. tksurfer/tkmedit display color fix in OSX 10.6? (Fred Dick) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 15:34:35 +0100 > From: Fred Dick <fdick(a)crl.ucsd.edu> > Subject: [Freesurfer] tksurfer/tkmedit display color fix in OSX 10.6? > To: freesurfer(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > Message-ID: <873B33F2-3339-4871-9395-1EFEEC1EFAAB(a)crl.ucsd.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear all > > This is a pretty minor issue (except for figure making) - but has anyone experienced and then fixed a display problem in tksurfer/tkmedit in OSX 10.6 (possibly also 10.5) where graphics seem to be drawn only with 256 colors, thereby giving images a kind of contour-plot look? (See attached image below). [Running 10.6.3, i686-apple-darwin10-gcc-4.2.1, tksurfer 1.309 (yes, older), tkmedit v 1.330] > > I looked around the mail archives but didn't see anyone else commenting on this, but do know someone else having the same issue, so would be happy for any suggestions. > > Thanks, > Fred > > >

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downsampling 4D volume
by ythomas 10 Jan '12

10 Jan '12

Hi, I am trying to downsample a 4D volume using mri_convert. However, it seems to be killing the 4 dimension. For example, if I do mri_convert -voxsize 4 4 4 tmp.mgz tmp444.mgz The original volume which is 256 x 256 x 256 x 120 becomes 64 x 64 x 64. Thanks, Thomas

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Re: [Freesurfer] I/O performance mitigation
by Bruce Fischl 26 May '11

26 May '11

Hi David, I'm surprised you didn't have to do this in the past. We always space our jobs out. Glad there's an easy workaround cheers Bruce On Fri, 3 Sep 2010, David Mischel wrote: > We took the suggestion of staggering the launch of Freesurfer 5.0 recon-all > jobs. The attached Word doc (I don't know how to contribute this information > other than attaching the image and text using Word) shows a load graph on > our file server. When 20 FS jobs began at once (all processing servers using > a single file server) the load on the file server bulged up. When we spaced > out the launch of each job by 15 seconds the load hardly budged. > > > > We have not had to do this in the past with earlier versions of Freesurfer > but this is an obvious work around to the problem we encountered. > > > > < david > > > > > > David Mischel > > Manager of IT > > Center for Imaging of Neurodegenerative Diseases (CIND) > > <http://www.cind.research.va.gov/> http://www.cind.research.va.gov/ > > VA Medical Center > > 4150 Clement Street, 114M > > San Francisco, CA 94121 > > voice: 415-221-4810 x3864 > > fax: 415-668-2864 > >

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How to proceed after manual edit of segmentation
by Tetiana Dadakova 05 May '11

05 May '11

Dear FreeSurfer list, I am making some manual correction to subcortical structures using Edit Segmentation Tool. And my question is: how should I proceed after saving aseg.mgz? Should I re-run autorecon2 with some options? Thank you, Tanja.

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Power Analysis
by Emily Rogalski 20 Apr '11

20 Apr '11

How would you complete a power analysis for a whole brain group comparison qdec analysis? Thanks, Emily -- Emily J Rogalski, PhD Assistant Research Professor Northwestern University Cognitive Neurology and Alzheimer's Disease Center (CNADC) 320 E Superior Street Searle Building 11th Floor Chicago, IL 60611 312-503-1155 phone 312-908-8789 fax erogalski(a)gmail.com

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FreeSurfer ver 4.0 vs 5.0
by Keefe, Helen L 15 Apr '11

15 Apr '11

Hello Bruce and All, Here are some new questions to an ongoing issue. 1. What are advantages of version 5.0 over the former version? I have processed 82 scans so far in the former version and am debating whether to re-run them all in 5.0. We will eventually have a total of 560 scans, so we need to decide soon. 2. In version 5.0, when I run tksurfer $i lh pial -annotation aparc the corpus callossum is labeled as "none". Is there a way to have it be labeled correctly as itself in ver 5? Thanks, Helen ________________________________ Notice: This UI Health Care e-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, then delete it. Thank you. ________________________________

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Fwd: bbregister bug? with init-spm option--flips left and right
by Tyler Seibert 11 Apr '11

11 Apr '11

Screenshot2 attached ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tyler Seibert <tseibert(a)ucsd.edu> Date: Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:02 PM Subject: bbregister bug? with init-spm option--flips left and right To: freesurfer(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Hello, I hope this is the correct email list--this is my first time posting (just subscribed). I have been using bbregister to calculate a tranformation matrix between a T2 image (T2brain.nii.gz) and the subject's T1.mgz for subsequent use with mri_vol2surf. I have found that the init-fsl option frequently gives very poor registrations (e.g., registered T2 is rotated 30+ degrees from T1). The init-spm option seemed to be working great. However, upon close inspection, I became suspicious this option was actually flipping the T2 so that the left hemisphere became right and vice versa. I am using FreeSurfer version 4.5 and have spm8 referenced in my matlab path. I used a directory ~/bbreg_test in my home directory for the test (linux), which consisted simply of running bbregister with init-fsl and init-spm options. The attached log file (log.txt) contains the commands I used. The terminal output from each test was saved in text files as well, also attached. I have also attached two screenshots of the tkregister2 output for these tests. In each screenshot the far left image is the registered T2 using init-spm, and the far right image is the registered T2 using init-fsl. As the init-fsl version is clearly wrong, the middle image in each screenshot is the init-fsl output again, but manually rotated several degrees to the left to better emphasize the mirror-image relationship between the init-spm (far left) and init-fsl (middle and far right) output images. Please let me know if there is anything further you need from me to investigate this or if there is any insight you can give me as far as how to avoid this error. I noticed at line 209 of the spm_test.txt log file there is a message stating that RAS coordinate system is assumed (see below, where I have copied lines 208-213 for convenience). This may very well be the problem, as the T2brain.nii.gz volume is in LAS, according to mri_info output. However, I do not see where I can override this RAS assumption. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> /home/tylers/apps/spm8/spm_coreg.m > >> >> >> >> >> INFO: Assuming RAS coordinate system > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> using > /home/tylers/bbreg_test/init-spm/tmp.bbregister.15515/spmregister/refvol.spmregister.img > as the target image > >> using > /home/tylers/bbreg_test/init-spm/tmp.bbregister.15515/spmregister/movvol.spmregister.img > as the source image > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Thank you, -- Tyler Seibert Dept. of Bioengineering Medical Scientist Training Program University of California, San Diego -- Tyler Seibert Dept. of Bioengineering Medical Scientist Training Program University of California, San Diego

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effect size for cortical thickness changes
by Ritobrato Datta 07 Apr '11

07 Apr '11

Hello All, Are there reports of studies of cortical thickness changes using freesurfer which report effect sizes for the ROIs of interest ie how much of a change in millimeters was observed as opposed to p-values reported. Please let me know. Thanks a lot Ri

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Slice Order
by Rita Loiotile 07 Apr '11

07 Apr '11

If my BOLD scan has 30 slices in "interleaved" series, can I assume the slice order is 1,3,5,7,9...29,2,4,6,8..30? In other words, 1:2:30,2:2:30?

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Freesurfer March 2011