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Dear FreeSurfer Team,
Apologies in case I missed this elsewhere, but I was wondering whether there is any information on what the expected outputs of running infant_ recon_all are, similar to this (https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/ReconAllOutputFiles) for the adult pipeline?
I am asking as after testing the pipeline using the example participant provided on openneuro (https://openneuro.org/datasets/ds004776/versions/1.0.0, I’ve noticed that some of the output differs from the adult version and I wanted to ensure that everything is running correctly before applying it to our data. For example, there is no ‘orig’ subdirectory or orig.mgz file in the ~/mri folder. Similarly, fewer files are included in the ~/stats folder (only: brainvol.stats, lh.aparc.stats, rh.aparc.stats) although I was able to able to generate other files (e.g., aseg.stats) using mri_segstats. Overall, only the following folders are generated following recon-all without errors: label, log, mri, stats, and surf.
Is this correct or might there be something going wrong on my end?
1) FreeSurfer version: infant-dev-4a14499-20210109-4a14499 2) Platform: CentOS release 7 3) uname -a: Linux fhpc-1840 6.8.0-40-generic #40~22.04.3-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue Jul 30 17:30:19 UTC 2 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux 4) infant_recon_all log: see attached
Thank you in advance!
Best wishes, Marlene
Hi Marlene,
This is correct. Even though infant_recon_all is trying to mimic the output folder structure and follows the FreeSrufer naming convention, it does not generate all of the files that the adult version does.
Lilla ________________________________ From: freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu on behalf of Marlene Staginnus ms2290@bath.ac.uk Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 9:57 AM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: [Freesurfer] infantFS: expected outputs
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Dear FreeSurfer Team,
Apologies in case I missed this elsewhere, but I was wondering whether there is any information on what the expected outputs of running infant_ recon_all are, similar to this (https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/ReconAllOutputFiles) for the adult pipeline?
I am asking as after testing the pipeline using the example participant provided on openneuro (https://openneuro.org/datasets/ds004776/versions/1.0.0, I’ve noticed that some of the output differs from the adult version and I wanted to ensure that everything is running correctly before applying it to our data. For example, there is no ‘orig’ subdirectory or orig.mgz file in the ~/mri folder. Similarly, fewer files are included in the ~/stats folder (only: brainvol.stats, lh.aparc.stats, rh.aparc.stats) although I was able to able to generate other files (e.g., aseg.stats) using mri_segstats. Overall, only the following folders are generated following recon-all without errors: label, log, mri, stats, and surf.
Is this correct or might there be something going wrong on my end?
1) FreeSurfer version: infant-dev-4a14499-20210109-4a14499
2) Platform: CentOS release 7
3) uname -a: Linux fhpc-1840 6.8.0-40-generic #40~22.04.3-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue Jul 30 17:30:19 UTC 2 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
4) infant_recon_all log: see attached
Thank you in advance!
Best wishes, Marlene
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Dear Lilla,
Besides the differences in the files, when looking at the segmentations we wondered why there are some labels zero in the aseg stats file. These are :
Left-Inf-Lat-Vent CSF Right-Inf-Lat-Vent Brain-Stem Left-vessel Left-choroid-plexus Right-vessel Right-choroid-plexus 5th ventrikel WM-hypointensities
We also did a cross check and had run the same subject with the normal freesurfer pipeline and here there have been segmentations for the above structures.
Maybe you have an idea what is happening here ? or are these not included in the atlas?
Thanks in advance
Yours Frank
----------- adjunct Prof. Dr. Frank Zoellner Acting head
Computer Assisted Clinical Medicine Mannheim Institute for Intelligent System in Medicine Medical Faculty Mannheim Heidelberg University Theodor-Kutzer-Ufer 1-3 D-68167 Mannheim
Phone: +49 (0)621 3835121 Fax: +49 (0)621 3835123 Email: Frank.Zoellner@MedMa.Uni-Heidelberg.demailto:Frank.Zoellner@MedMa.Uni-Heidelberg.de Web: https://www.umm.uni-heidelberg.de/miism/computer-assisted-clinical-medicine/
Von: freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Im Auftrag von Zollei, Lilla,Ph.D. Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. September 2024 16:12 An: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] infantFS: expected outputs
Hi Marlene,
This is correct. Even though infant_recon_all is trying to mimic the output folder structure and follows the FreeSrufer naming convention, it does not generate all of the files that the adult version does.
Lilla ________________________________ From: freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edumailto:freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edumailto:freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Marlene Staginnus <ms2290@bath.ac.ukmailto:ms2290@bath.ac.uk> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 9:57 AM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edumailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edumailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Subject: [Freesurfer] infantFS: expected outputs
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Dear FreeSurfer Team,
Apologies in case I missed this elsewhere, but I was wondering whether there is any information on what the expected outputs of running infant_ recon_all are, similar to this (https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/ReconAllOutputFiles) for the adult pipeline?
I am asking as after testing the pipeline using the example participant provided on openneuro (https://openneuro.org/datasets/ds004776/versions/1.0.0, I've noticed that some of the output differs from the adult version and I wanted to ensure that everything is running correctly before applying it to our data. For example, there is no 'orig' subdirectory or orig.mgz file in the ~/mri folder. Similarly, fewer files are included in the ~/stats folder (only: brainvol.stats, lh.aparc.stats, rh.aparc.stats) although I was able to able to generate other files (e.g., aseg.stats) using mri_segstats. Overall, only the following folders are generated following recon-all without errors: label, log, mri, stats, and surf.
Is this correct or might there be something going wrong on my end?
1) FreeSurfer version: infant-dev-4a14499-20210109-4a14499
2) Platform: CentOS release 7
3) uname -a: Linux fhpc-1840 6.8.0-40-generic #40~22.04.3-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue Jul 30 17:30:19 UTC 2 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
4) infant_recon_all log: see attached
Thank you in advance!
Best wishes, Marlene
Dear Frank,
You are correct. The list of segmentation labels is not 100% the same. For the infantFS segmentation labels you can refer to Table 1 in https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7415702/.
Best, Lilla ________________________________ From: freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu on behalf of Zoellner, Frank Frank.Zoellner@medma.uni-heidelberg.de Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 4:31 AM To: Freesurfer support list freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] infantFS: expected outputs
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Dear Lilla,
Besides the differences in the files, when looking at the segmentations we wondered why there are some labels zero in the aseg stats file.
These are :
Left-Inf-Lat-Vent
CSF
Right-Inf-Lat-Vent
Brain-Stem
Left-vessel
Left-choroid-plexus
Right-vessel
Right-choroid-plexus
5th ventrikel
WM-hypointensities
We also did a cross check and had run the same subject with the normal freesurfer pipeline and here there have been segmentations for the above structures.
Maybe you have an idea what is happening here ? or are these not included in the atlas?
Thanks in advance
Yours
Frank
-----------
adjunct Prof. Dr. Frank Zoellner
Acting head
Computer Assisted Clinical Medicine
Mannheim Institute for Intelligent System in Medicine
Medical Faculty Mannheim
Heidelberg University
Theodor-Kutzer-Ufer 1-3
D-68167 Mannheim
Phone: +49 (0)621 3835121
Fax: +49 (0)621 3835123
Email: Frank.Zoellner@MedMa.Uni-Heidelberg.demailto:Frank.Zoellner@MedMa.Uni-Heidelberg.de
Web: https://www.umm.uni-heidelberg.de/miism/computer-assisted-clinical-medicine/
Von: freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Im Auftrag von Zollei, Lilla,Ph.D. Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. September 2024 16:12 An: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] infantFS: expected outputs
Hi Marlene,
This is correct. Even though infant_recon_all is trying to mimic the output folder structure and follows the FreeSrufer naming convention, it does not generate all of the files that the adult version does.
Lilla
________________________________
From: freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edumailto:freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edumailto:freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Marlene Staginnus <ms2290@bath.ac.ukmailto:ms2290@bath.ac.uk> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 9:57 AM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edumailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edumailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Subject: [Freesurfer] infantFS: expected outputs
External Email - Use Caution
Dear FreeSurfer Team,
Apologies in case I missed this elsewhere, but I was wondering whether there is any information on what the expected outputs of running infant_ recon_all are, similar to this (https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/ReconAllOutputFiles) for the adult pipeline?
I am asking as after testing the pipeline using the example participant provided on openneuro (https://openneuro.org/datasets/ds004776/versions/1.0.0, I’ve noticed that some of the output differs from the adult version and I wanted to ensure that everything is running correctly before applying it to our data. For example, there is no ‘orig’ subdirectory or orig.mgz file in the ~/mri folder. Similarly, fewer files are included in the ~/stats folder (only: brainvol.stats, lh.aparc.stats, rh.aparc.stats) although I was able to able to generate other files (e.g., aseg.stats) using mri_segstats. Overall, only the following folders are generated following recon-all without errors: label, log, mri, stats, and surf.
Is this correct or might there be something going wrong on my end?
1) FreeSurfer version: infant-dev-4a14499-20210109-4a14499
2) Platform: CentOS release 7
3) uname -a: Linux fhpc-1840 6.8.0-40-generic #40~22.04.3-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue Jul 30 17:30:19 UTC 2 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
4) infant_recon_all log: see attached
Thank you in advance!
Best wishes, Marlene
freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu