Hi, I am planning to perform some regional analysis of the frontal white matter as a whole, and asking here for suggestions/help.
From the FS output wmparc.mgz I could select and merge the following labels
to define my ROI
parsorbitalis [4019, 3019] parstriangularis [4020, 3020] lateralorbitofrontal [4012, 3012] medialorbitofrontal [4014, 3014] rostralmiddlefrontal [4027, 3027] frontalpole [4032, 3032] superiofrontal [4028, 3028] caudalmiddlefrontal [4003, 3003] paracentral [4017, 3017] parsopercularis [4018, 3018] postcentral [4022, 3022] precentral [4024, 3024] rostralantcingulate [4026, 3026]
However, a non-negligible portion of the subcortical frontal WM is classified as unsegmented WM [5001, 5002] by FS. Would you recommend any other FS output or template/atlas that I could use for the purpose of measuring MRI signal in the frontal WM?
Thanks
The unsegmented is all the WM that is further than 5mm from cortex. You can change the threshold so that it labels all of WM regardless of the distance. Other than that, I don't have much to suggest. doug
On 11/18/14 6:13 PM, Michele Cavallari wrote:
Hi, I am planning to perform some regional analysis of the frontal white matter as a whole, and asking here for suggestions/help. From the FS output wmparc.mgz I could select and merge the following labels to define my ROI
parsorbitalis [4019, 3019] parstriangularis [4020, 3020] lateralorbitofrontal [4012, 3012] medialorbitofrontal [4014, 3014] rostralmiddlefrontal [4027, 3027] frontalpole [4032, 3032] superiofrontal [4028, 3028] caudalmiddlefrontal [4003, 3003] paracentral [4017, 3017] parsopercularis [4018, 3018] postcentral [4022, 3022] precentral [4024, 3024] rostralantcingulate [4026, 3026]
However, a non-negligible portion of the subcortical frontal WM is classified as unsegmented WM [5001, 5002] by FS. Would you recommend any other FS output or template/atlas that I could use for the purpose of measuring MRI signal in the frontal WM?
Thanks
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Hi Douglas, thanks for your reply. Is there a way to rerun only WM segmentation with the threshold option, without going through the whole time-consuming FS pipeline? Thank you!
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Douglas Greve greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
The unsegmented is all the WM that is further than 5mm from cortex. You can change the threshold so that it labels all of WM regardless of the distance. Other than that, I don't have much to suggest. doug
On 11/18/14 6:13 PM, Michele Cavallari wrote:
Hi, I am planning to perform some regional analysis of the frontal white matter as a whole, and asking here for suggestions/help. From the FS output wmparc.mgz I could select and merge the following labels to define my ROI
parsorbitalis [4019, 3019] parstriangularis [4020, 3020] lateralorbitofrontal [4012, 3012] medialorbitofrontal [4014, 3014] rostralmiddlefrontal [4027, 3027] frontalpole [4032, 3032] superiofrontal [4028, 3028] caudalmiddlefrontal [4003, 3003] paracentral [4017, 3017] parsopercularis [4018, 3018] postcentral [4022, 3022] precentral [4024, 3024] rostralantcingulate [4026, 3026]
However, a non-negligible portion of the subcortical frontal WM is classified as unsegmented WM [5001, 5002] by FS. Would you recommend any other FS output or template/atlas that I could use for the purpose of measuring MRI signal in the frontal WM?
Thanks
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There are two ways you can do this.
1. Make an expert options file with the contents mri_aparc2aseg --wmparc-dmax 100 Run run recon-all like recon-all -s subject -wmparc -expert YourXOptsFile
2. Look in recon-all.log for the mri_aparc2aseg command, cut and paste it into the terminal, add --wmparc-dmax 100, and run
On 11/19/2014 11:34 AM, Michele Cavallari wrote:
Hi Douglas, thanks for your reply. Is there a way to rerun only WM segmentation with the threshold option, without going through the whole time-consuming FS pipeline? Thank you!
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Douglas Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
The unsegmented is all the WM that is further than 5mm from cortex. You can change the threshold so that it labels all of WM regardless of the distance. Other than that, I don't have much to suggest. doug On 11/18/14 6:13 PM, Michele Cavallari wrote:Hi, I am planning to perform some regional analysis of the frontal white matter as a whole, and asking here for suggestions/help. From the FS output wmparc.mgz I could select and merge the following labels to define my ROI parsorbitalis [4019, 3019] parstriangularis [4020, 3020] lateralorbitofrontal [4012, 3012] medialorbitofrontal [4014, 3014] rostralmiddlefrontal [4027, 3027] frontalpole [4032, 3032] superiofrontal [4028, 3028] caudalmiddlefrontal [4003, 3003] paracentral [4017, 3017] parsopercularis [4018, 3018] postcentral [4022, 3022] precentral [4024, 3024] rostralantcingulate [4026, 3026] However, a non-negligible portion of the subcortical frontal WM is classified as unsegmented WM [5001, 5002] by FS. Would you recommend any other FS output or template/atlas that I could use for the purpose of measuring MRI signal in the frontal WM? Thanks _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer_______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.
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ok, thank you very much for your prompt reply! will try to do that
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Douglas N Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
wrote:
There are two ways you can do this.
- Make an expert options file with the contents
mri_aparc2aseg --wmparc-dmax 100 Run run recon-all like recon-all -s subject -wmparc -expert YourXOptsFile
- Look in recon-all.log for the mri_aparc2aseg command, cut and paste
it into the terminal, add --wmparc-dmax 100, and run
On 11/19/2014 11:34 AM, Michele Cavallari wrote:
Hi Douglas, thanks for your reply. Is there a way to rerun only WM segmentation with the threshold option, without going through the whole time-consuming FS pipeline? Thank you!
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Douglas Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
The unsegmented is all the WM that is further than 5mm from cortex. You can change the threshold so that it labels all of WM regardless of the distance. Other than that, I don't have much to suggest. doug On 11/18/14 6:13 PM, Michele Cavallari wrote:Hi, I am planning to perform some regional analysis of the frontal white matter as a whole, and asking here for suggestions/help. From the FS output wmparc.mgz I could select and merge the following labels to define my ROI parsorbitalis [4019, 3019] parstriangularis [4020, 3020] lateralorbitofrontal [4012, 3012] medialorbitofrontal [4014, 3014] rostralmiddlefrontal [4027, 3027] frontalpole [4032, 3032] superiofrontal [4028, 3028] caudalmiddlefrontal [4003, 3003] paracentral [4017, 3017] parsopercularis [4018, 3018] postcentral [4022, 3022] precentral [4024, 3024] rostralantcingulate [4026, 3026] However, a non-negligible portion of the subcortical frontal WM is classified as unsegmented WM [5001, 5002] by FS. Would you recommend any other FS output or template/atlas that I could use for the purpose of measuring MRI signal in the frontal WM? Thanks _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
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Hi Michele
sorry, I don't think so. You need to run to the end. The good news is that when we get V6 out you will find it is substantially faster (if you have a multi-core machine)
cheers Bruce On Wed, 19 Nov 2014, Michele Cavallari wrote:
Hi Douglas, thanks for your reply. Is there a way to rerun only WM segmentation with the threshold option, without going through the whole time-consuming FS pipeline?Thank you!
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Douglas Greve greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
The unsegmented is all the WM that is further than 5mm from cortex. You can change the threshold so that it labels all of WM regardless of the distance. Other than that, I don't have much to suggest. doug On 11/18/14 6:13 PM, Michele Cavallari wrote: Hi, I am planning to perform some regional analysis of the frontal white matter as a whole, and asking here for suggestions/help. From the FS output wmparc.mgz I could select and merge the following labels to define my ROIparsorbitalis [4019, 3019] parstriangularis [4020, 3020] lateralorbitofrontal [4012, 3012] medialorbitofrontal [4014, 3014] rostralmiddlefrontal [4027, 3027] frontalpole [4032, 3032] superiofrontal [4028, 3028] caudalmiddlefrontal [4003, 3003] paracentral [4017, 3017] parsopercularis [4018, 3018] postcentral [4022, 3022] precentral [4024, 3024] rostralantcingulate [4026, 3026]
However, a non-negligible portion of the subcortical frontal WM is classified as unsegmented WM [5001, 5002] by FS. Would you recommend any other FS output or template/atlas that I could use for the purpose of measuring MRI signal in the frontal WM?
Thanks
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ok, so should I just re-run the recon-all with the wm option? i.e. recon-all -all --wmparc-dmax 100
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
Hi Michele
sorry, I don't think so. You need to run to the end. The good news is that when we get V6 out you will find it is substantially faster (if you have a multi-core machine)
cheers Bruce On Wed, 19 Nov 2014, Michele Cavallari wrote:
Hi Douglas, thanks for your reply. Is there a way to rerun only WM
segmentation with the threshold option, without going through the whole time-consuming FS pipeline?Thank you!
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Douglas Greve < greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
The unsegmented is all the WM that is further than 5mm from cortex. You can change the threshold so that it labels all of WM regardless of the distance. Other than that, I don't have much to suggest. doug On 11/18/14 6:13 PM, Michele Cavallari wrote: Hi, I am planning to perform some regional analysis of the frontal white matter as a whole, and asking here for suggestions/help. From the FS output wmparc.mgz I could select and merge the following labels to define my ROIparsorbitalis [4019, 3019] parstriangularis [4020, 3020] lateralorbitofrontal [4012, 3012] medialorbitofrontal [4014, 3014] rostralmiddlefrontal [4027, 3027] frontalpole [4032, 3032] superiofrontal [4028, 3028] caudalmiddlefrontal [4003, 3003] paracentral [4017, 3017] parsopercularis [4018, 3018] postcentral [4022, 3022] precentral [4024, 3024] rostralantcingulate [4026, 3026]
However, a non-negligible portion of the subcortical frontal WM is classified as unsegmented WM [5001, 5002] by FS. Would you recommend any other FS output or template/atlas that I could use for the purpose of measuring MRI signal in the frontal WM?
Thanks
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I think Michele only wants to regenerate the wmparc.mgz, so just running recon-all with --wmparc and the xopts should work
On 11/19/2014 12:07 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
Hi Michele
sorry, I don't think so. You need to run to the end. The good news is that when we get V6 out you will find it is substantially faster (if you have a multi-core machine)
cheers Bruce On Wed, 19 Nov 2014, Michele Cavallari wrote:
Hi Douglas, thanks for your reply. Is there a way to rerun only WM segmentation with the threshold option, without going through the whole time-consuming FS pipeline?Thank you!
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Douglas Greve greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
The unsegmented is all the WM that is further than 5mm from cortex. You can change the threshold so that it labels all of WM regardless of the distance. Other than that, I don't have much to suggest. doug On 11/18/14 6:13 PM, Michele Cavallari wrote: Hi, I am planning to perform some regional analysis of the frontal white matter as a whole, and asking here for suggestions/help. From the FS output wmparc.mgz I could select and merge the following labels to define my ROIparsorbitalis [4019, 3019] parstriangularis [4020, 3020] lateralorbitofrontal [4012, 3012] medialorbitofrontal [4014, 3014] rostralmiddlefrontal [4027, 3027] frontalpole [4032, 3032] superiofrontal [4028, 3028] caudalmiddlefrontal [4003, 3003] paracentral [4017, 3017] parsopercularis [4018, 3018] postcentral [4022, 3022] precentral [4024, 3024] rostralantcingulate [4026, 3026]
However, a non-negligible portion of the subcortical frontal WM is classified as unsegmented WM [5001, 5002] by FS. Would you recommend any other FS output or template/atlas that I could use for the purpose of measuring MRI signal in the frontal WM?
Thanks
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oh, so it's already been run all the way through? Sorry, I didn't understand that. Bruce On Wed, 19 Nov 2014, Douglas N Greve wrote:
I think Michele only wants to regenerate the wmparc.mgz, so just running recon-all with --wmparc and the xopts should work
On 11/19/2014 12:07 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
Hi Michele
sorry, I don't think so. You need to run to the end. The good news is that when we get V6 out you will find it is substantially faster (if you have a multi-core machine)
cheers Bruce On Wed, 19 Nov 2014, Michele Cavallari wrote:
Hi Douglas, thanks for your reply. Is there a way to rerun only WM segmentation with the threshold option, without going through the whole time-consuming FS pipeline?Thank you!
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Douglas Greve greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
The unsegmented is all the WM that is further than 5mm from cortex. You can change the threshold so that it labels all of WM regardless of the distance. Other than that, I don't have much to suggest. doug On 11/18/14 6:13 PM, Michele Cavallari wrote: Hi, I am planning to perform some regional analysis of the frontal white matter as a whole, and asking here for suggestions/help. From the FS output wmparc.mgz I could select and merge the following labels to define my ROIparsorbitalis [4019, 3019] parstriangularis [4020, 3020] lateralorbitofrontal [4012, 3012] medialorbitofrontal [4014, 3014] rostralmiddlefrontal [4027, 3027] frontalpole [4032, 3032] superiofrontal [4028, 3028] caudalmiddlefrontal [4003, 3003] paracentral [4017, 3017] parsopercularis [4018, 3018] postcentral [4022, 3022] precentral [4024, 3024] rostralantcingulate [4026, 3026]
However, a non-negligible portion of the subcortical frontal WM is classified as unsegmented WM [5001, 5002] by FS. Would you recommend any other FS output or template/atlas that I could use for the purpose of measuring MRI signal in the frontal WM?
Thanks
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yes, I already have the FS outputs for all the subjects. Thanks
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
oh, so it's already been run all the way through? Sorry, I didn't understand that. Bruce On Wed, 19 Nov 2014, Douglas N Greve wrote:
I think Michele only wants to regenerate the wmparc.mgz, so just running recon-all with --wmparc and the xopts should work
On 11/19/2014 12:07 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
Hi Michele
sorry, I don't think so. You need to run to the end. The good news is that when we get V6 out you will find it is substantially faster (if you have a multi-core machine)
cheers Bruce On Wed, 19 Nov 2014, Michele Cavallari wrote:
Hi Douglas, thanks for your reply. Is there a way to rerun only WM segmentation with the threshold option, without going through the whole time-consuming FS pipeline?Thank you!
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Douglas Greve greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
The unsegmented is all the WM that is further than 5mm from cortex. You can change the threshold so that it labels all of WM regardless of the distance. Other than that, I don't have much to suggest. doug On 11/18/14 6:13 PM, Michele Cavallari wrote: Hi, I am planning to perform some regional analysis of the frontal white matter as a whole, and asking here for suggestions/help. From the FS output wmparc.mgz I could select and merge the following labels to define my ROIparsorbitalis [4019, 3019] parstriangularis [4020, 3020] lateralorbitofrontal [4012, 3012] medialorbitofrontal [4014, 3014] rostralmiddlefrontal [4027, 3027] frontalpole [4032, 3032] superiofrontal [4028, 3028] caudalmiddlefrontal [4003, 3003] paracentral [4017, 3017] parsopercularis [4018, 3018] postcentral [4022, 3022] precentral [4024, 3024] rostralantcingulate [4026, 3026]
However, a non-negligible portion of the subcortical frontal WM is classified as unsegmented WM [5001, 5002] by FS. Would you recommend any other FS output or template/atlas that I could use for the purpose of measuring MRI signal in the frontal WM?
Thanks
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