Hello experts,
I am trying to correlate cortical surface area measure with behavioral measures using instructions from here: https://surfer.nmr.mgh. harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis
After I overlay pcc.mgh (partial correlations) and sig.mgh files on lh.inflated, I see some clusters with high PCC values (Destrieux atlas) (please see attached figure) at "unlabeled subcortical regions" for one of the behavioral measures, out of 4.
Although for volume and thickness versus any behavioral measures, I do not see any "unlabeled subcortical regions" clusters like this.
Could you please advise me if its normal to get these clusters? If so, how can I interpret that?
Or Am I doing something wrong during preprocessing? If so, any help to find out where I might be doing wrong and to fix the issue would be really appreciated.
Thanks.
I think you might be doing something wrong during preprocessing. Can you send your command lines?
On 03/06/2017 12:11 PM, Martin Juneja wrote:
Hello experts,
I am trying to correlate cortical surface area measure with behavioral measures using instructions from here: https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis
After I overlay pcc.mgh (partial correlations) and sig.mgh files on lh.inflated, I see some clusters with high PCC values (Destrieux atlas) (please see attached figure) at "unlabeled subcortical regions" for one of the behavioral measures, out of 4.
Although for volume and thickness versus any behavioral measures, I do not see any "unlabeled subcortical regions" clusters like this.
Could you please advise me if its normal to get these clusters? If so, how can I interpret that?
Or Am I doing something wrong during preprocessing? If so, any help to find out where I might be doing wrong and to fix the issue would be really appreciated.
Thanks.
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Hi Dr. Greve,
I am using following commands:
recon-all -all -subject S01 -i T1w_S01.nii -qcache mris_preproc --fsgd MEQ.fsgd --target fsaverage --hemi lh --meas area --out lh.MEQ_area.mgh mri_surf2surf --hemi lh --s fsaverage --sval lh.MEQ_area.mgh --fwhm 10 --cortex --tval lh.MEQ_area.10.mgh mri_glmfit --y lh.MEQ_area.10.mgh --fsgd MEQ.fsgd dods --C Corr-MEQ-cor.mtx --surf fsaverage lh --cortex --glmdir lh.MEQ_area.glmdir mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir lh.MEQ_area.glmdir --cache 1.3 neg --cwp 0.05 --2spaces mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir lh.MEQ_area.glmdir --cache 1.3 pos --cwp 0.05 --2spaces Thanks.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Douglas N Greve greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
I think you might be doing something wrong during preprocessing. Can you send your command lines?
On 03/06/2017 12:11 PM, Martin Juneja wrote:
Hello experts,
I am trying to correlate cortical surface area measure with behavioral measures using instructions from here: https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis
After I overlay pcc.mgh (partial correlations) and sig.mgh files on lh.inflated, I see some clusters with high PCC values (Destrieux atlas) (please see attached figure) at "unlabeled subcortical regions" for one of the behavioral measures, out of 4.
Although for volume and thickness versus any behavioral measures, I do not see any "unlabeled subcortical regions" clusters like this.
Could you please advise me if its normal to get these clusters? If so, how can I interpret that?
Or Am I doing something wrong during preprocessing? If so, any help to find out where I might be doing wrong and to fix the issue would be really appreciated.
Thanks.
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Hmm, something is going wrong because medial wall areas should have been masked out. Take a look at the medial wall area in lh.MEQ_area.10.mgh file with something like
tksurferfv fsaverage lh inflated -aparc -ov lh.MEQ_area.10.mgh -fminmax .001 .1
scroll through the subjects to see if you see any non-zero signal in the medial wall
Are you using v6?
On 03/06/2017 04:26 PM, Martin Juneja wrote:
Hi Dr. Greve,
I am using following commands:
recon-all -all -subject S01 -i T1w_S01.nii -qcache mris_preproc --fsgd MEQ.fsgd --target fsaverage --hemi lh --meas area --out lh.MEQ_area.mgh mri_surf2surf --hemi lh --s fsaverage --sval lh.MEQ_area.mgh --fwhm 10 --cortex --tval lh.MEQ_area.10.mgh mri_glmfit --y lh.MEQ_area.10.mgh --fsgd MEQ.fsgd dods --C Corr-MEQ-cor.mtx --surf fsaverage lh --cortex --glmdir lh.MEQ_area.glmdir mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir lh.MEQ_area.glmdir --cache 1.3 neg --cwp 0.05 --2spaces mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir lh.MEQ_area.glmdir --cache 1.3 pos --cwp 0.05 --2spaces
Thanks.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Douglas N Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
I think you might be doing something wrong during preprocessing. Can you send your command lines? On 03/06/2017 12:11 PM, Martin Juneja wrote: > Hello experts, > > I am trying to correlate cortical surface area measure with behavioral > measures using instructions from here: > https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis> > <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis>> > > After I overlay pcc.mgh (partial correlations) and sig.mgh files on > lh.inflated, I see some clusters with high PCC values (Destrieux > atlas) (please see attached figure) at "unlabeled subcortical regions" > for one of the behavioral measures, out of 4. > > Although for volume and thickness versus any behavioral measures, I do > not see any "unlabeled subcortical regions" clusters like this. > > Could you please advise me if its normal to get these clusters? If so, > how can I interpret that? > > Or Am I doing something wrong during preprocessing? If so, any help to > find out where I might be doing wrong and to fix the issue would be > really appreciated. > > Thanks. > > > _______________________________________________ > Freesurfer mailing list > Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> > https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer <https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer> -- Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D. MGH-NMR Center greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Phone Number: 617-724-2358 <tel:617-724-2358> Fax: 617-726-7422 <tel:617-726-7422> Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting <http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting> FileDrop: https://gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/filedrop2 <https://gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/filedrop2> www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html <http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html> Outgoing: ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/ <ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/> _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer <https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer> The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline <http://www.partners.org/complianceline> . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.
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Hi Dr. Greve,
I looked at the medial wall area in lh.MEQ_area.10.mgh and noticed a small cluster 'red' colored, please find it attached. Rest of the brain surface is 'yellow'. I am not sure what can I interpret front his?
Version I am using is: freesurfer-Linux-centos6_x86_64-dev-20160701-61ad3a0
Thanks.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Douglas N Greve greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
Hmm, something is going wrong because medial wall areas should have been masked out. Take a look at the medial wall area in lh.MEQ_area.10.mgh file with something like
tksurferfv fsaverage lh inflated -aparc -ov lh.MEQ_area.10.mgh -fminmax .001 .1
scroll through the subjects to see if you see any non-zero signal in the medial wall
Are you using v6?
On 03/06/2017 04:26 PM, Martin Juneja wrote:
Hi Dr. Greve,
I am using following commands:
recon-all -all -subject S01 -i T1w_S01.nii -qcache mris_preproc --fsgd MEQ.fsgd --target fsaverage --hemi lh --meas area --out lh.MEQ_area.mgh mri_surf2surf --hemi lh --s fsaverage --sval lh.MEQ_area.mgh --fwhm 10 --cortex --tval lh.MEQ_area.10.mgh mri_glmfit --y lh.MEQ_area.10.mgh --fsgd MEQ.fsgd dods --C Corr-MEQ-cor.mtx --surf fsaverage lh --cortex --glmdir lh.MEQ_area.glmdir mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir lh.MEQ_area.glmdir --cache 1.3 neg --cwp 0.05 --2spaces mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir lh.MEQ_area.glmdir --cache 1.3 pos --cwp 0.05 --2spaces
Thanks.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Douglas N Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
I think you might be doing something wrong during preprocessing. Can you send your command lines? On 03/06/2017 12:11 PM, Martin Juneja wrote: > Hello experts, > > I am trying to correlate cortical surface area measure with behavioral > measures using instructions from here: > https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis> > <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis> > After I overlay pcc.mgh (partial correlations) and sig.mgh files on > lh.inflated, I see some clusters with high PCC values (Destrieux > atlas) (please see attached figure) at "unlabeled subcortical regions" > for one of the behavioral measures, out of 4. > > Although for volume and thickness versus any behavioral measures, I do > not see any "unlabeled subcortical regions" clusters like this. > > Could you please advise me if its normal to get these clusters? If so, > how can I interpret that? > > Or Am I doing something wrong during preprocessing? If so, any help to > find out where I might be doing wrong and to fix the issue would be > really appreciated. > > Thanks. > > > _______________________________________________ > Freesurfer mailing list > Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> > https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer <https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer> -- Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D. MGH-NMR Center greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Phone Number: 617-724-2358 <tel:617-724-2358> Fax: 617-726-7422 <tel:617-726-7422> Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting <http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting> FileDrop: https://gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/filedrop2 <https://gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/filedrop2> www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html <http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html> Outgoing: ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/ <ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/> _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
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That red dot is fine. I bigger question is why you are using a development version from July 2016? The development versions are often unstable.
On 03/06/2017 05:27 PM, Martin Juneja wrote:
Hi Dr. Greve,
I looked at the medial wall area in lh.MEQ_area.10.mgh and noticed a small cluster 'red' colored, please find it attached. Rest of the brain surface is 'yellow'. I am not sure what can I interpret front his?
Version I am using is: freesurfer-Linux-centos6_x86_64-dev-20160701-61ad3a0
Thanks.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Douglas N Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
Hmm, something is going wrong because medial wall areas should have been masked out. Take a look at the medial wall area in lh.MEQ_area.10.mgh file with something like tksurferfv fsaverage lh inflated -aparc -ov lh.MEQ_area.10.mgh -fminmax .001 .1 scroll through the subjects to see if you see any non-zero signal in the medial wall Are you using v6? On 03/06/2017 04:26 PM, Martin Juneja wrote: > Hi Dr. Greve, > > I am using following commands: > > recon-all -all -subject S01 -i T1w_S01.nii -qcache > mris_preproc --fsgd MEQ.fsgd --target fsaverage --hemi lh --meas area > --out lh.MEQ_area.mgh > mri_surf2surf --hemi lh --s fsaverage --sval lh.MEQ_area.mgh --fwhm 10 > --cortex --tval lh.MEQ_area.10.mgh > mri_glmfit --y lh.MEQ_area.10.mgh --fsgd MEQ.fsgd dods --C > Corr-MEQ-cor.mtx --surf fsaverage lh --cortex --glmdir lh.MEQ_area.glmdir > mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir lh.MEQ_area.glmdir --cache 1.3 neg --cwp 0.05 > --2spaces > mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir lh.MEQ_area.glmdir --cache 1.3 pos --cwp 0.05 > --2spaces > > Thanks. > > On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Douglas N Greve > <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>> wrote: > > I think you might be doing something wrong during preprocessing. > Can you > send your command lines? > > > On 03/06/2017 12:11 PM, Martin Juneja wrote: > > Hello experts, > > > > I am trying to correlate cortical surface area measure with > behavioral > > measures using instructions from here: > > > https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis> > <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis>> > > > <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis> > <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis>>> > > > > After I overlay pcc.mgh (partial correlations) and sig.mgh files on > > lh.inflated, I see some clusters with high PCC values (Destrieux > > atlas) (please see attached figure) at "unlabeled subcortical > regions" > > for one of the behavioral measures, out of 4. > > > > Although for volume and thickness versus any behavioral > measures, I do > > not see any "unlabeled subcortical regions" clusters like this. > > > > Could you please advise me if its normal to get these clusters? > If so, > > how can I interpret that? > > > > Or Am I doing something wrong during preprocessing? If so, any > help to > > find out where I might be doing wrong and to fix the issue would be > > really appreciated. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Freesurfer mailing list > > Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> > <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> > > https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer <https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer> > <https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer <https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer>> > > -- > Douglas N. 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