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Hi Freesurfer experts,
I’m trying to update my current Freesurfer version (from 6.0 to 7.1). I’d like to know whether the installation procedure for 7.1 would overwrite the current one (6.0).
Many thanks,
Pilar
Il giorno 22 ago 2020, alle ore 7:48 AM, freesurfer-request@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu ha scritto:
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External Email - Use CautionHello freesurfer experts,
I am looking to extract the global surface and global thickness measurements and am curious if my understanding of the output on the aparc.stats (for lh and rh) are correct. When looking at these files, at the very top you will find the Pial Surface Total Area and a Mean Thickness value which I am assuming are the global measures. Below you have all of the ROIs listed (this was not changed by us or generated by us this is what comes out of freesurfer to my understanding) that includes everything EXCEPT the corpus callosum and the unknown. However, I summed all the surface areas and took and average of all the thickness measurements and they are very close to the values printed at the top of the sheet. Another observation I had made was that the total surface area measurement has a decimal and the surface area for the ROIs appears to be rounded and if they were not rounded the values would be the same. For the thickness values, the value I calculated and the one on the sheet are within the average of the standard deviation each other.
If my understanding is incorrect please let me know and provide insight into how we may calculate these global measurements correctly.
Thank you in advance for your time,
Tara Palin
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Hi Pilar,
You can update freesurfer to 7.1 by installing the rpm (on linux), running the mac installer, or by extracting the tar archive. The rpm and mac installers will download freesurfer distributions to appropriate version subdirectories, so they will not overwrite an earlier version. If you extract the archive, it's up to you to decide where to install freesurfer.
Best, Andrew
On 9/7/20, 4:26 AM, "freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu on behalf of Ferraro, Pilar" <freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu on behalf of FerraroP@pennmedicine.upenn.edu> wrote:
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Hi Freesurfer experts,
I’m trying to update my current Freesurfer version (from 6.0 to 7.1). I’d like to know whether the installation procedure for 7.1 would overwrite the current one (6.0).
Many thanks,
Pilar
> Il giorno 22 ago 2020, alle ore 7:48 AM, freesurfer-request@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu ha scritto: > > Send Freesurfer mailing list submissions to > freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freesurfer-request@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > freesurfer-owner@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Freesurfer digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Global surface area and global thickness values (Palin, Tara) > 2. How to run recon-all for different subjects and each subject > with different sessions ? (Camargo, Aldo) > 3. Postdoctoral scientist positions at UCSF (Tosun, Duygu) > 4. Re: extracting beta coefficients and p-values (Douglas N. Greve) > 5. Re: How to run recon-all for different subjects and each > subject with different sessions ? (Douglas N. Greve) > 6. Re: Global surface area and global thickness values > (Douglas N. Greve) > 7. Re: ROI-wide cortical thickness for each network ! (Martin Juneja) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 18:55:16 +0000 > From: "Palin, Tara" Palin@kennedykrieger.org > Subject: [Freesurfer] Global surface area and global thickness values > To: "freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu" freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > Cc: "Plotkin, Micah" PlotkinMic@kennedykrieger.org, "Crocetti, > Deana" crocetti@kennedykrieger.org > Message-ID: 162876d303f44e7d987ab303c0a11b45@kennedykrieger.org > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > External Email - Use Caution > > Hello freesurfer experts, > > > I am looking to extract the global surface and global thickness measurements and am curious if my understanding of the output on the aparc.stats (for lh and rh) are correct. When looking at these files, at the very top you will find the Pial Surface Total Area and a Mean Thickness value which I am assuming are the global measures. Below you have all of the ROIs listed (this was not changed by us or generated by us this is what comes out of freesurfer to my understanding) that includes everything EXCEPT the corpus callosum and the unknown. However, I summed all the surface areas and took and average of all the thickness measurements and they are very close to the values printed at the top of the sheet. Another observation I had made was that the total surface area measurement has a decimal and the surface area for the ROIs appears to be rounded and if they were not rounded the values would be the same. For the thickness values, the value I calculated and the one on the sheet are within the average of the standard deviation each other. > > > If my understanding is incorrect please let me know and provide insight into how we may calculate these global measurements correctly. > > > Thank you in advance for your time, > > Tara Palin > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Disclaimer: > > > The materials in this e-mail are private and may contain Protected Information. Please note that e-mail communication is not encrypted by default. You have the right to request further emails be encrypted by notifying the sender. Your continued use of e-mail constitutes your acknowledgment of these confidentiality and security limitations. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that any unauthorized use, disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender via telephone or return e-mail. >
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