H!
I am working with data which is an output from the FreeSurfer processing.
I would like to kindly ask you to refer me to materials / precise "mathematical" definitions that could help to understand what are the following parameters:
* ?MeanCurv - Integrated Rectified Mean Curvature, * GausCurv - Integrated Rectified Gaussian Curvature, * FoldInd - Folding Index, * CurvInd - Intrinsic Curvature Index.
(I have been trying to google but not been successful, unfortunately.)
Kind regards,
Marta Karas, M.S. Research Assistant, Department of Biostatistics Richard M. Fairbanks School of Public Health and School of Medicine Indiana University tel: 317-665-4551 email: mkaras@iu.edumailto:harezlak@iu.edu
Hi Marta
A 2D surface (like the cortical white or pial models) has two principal curvatures at each point - one in the direction of maximum curvature and one in the direction of minimum curvature - typically denoted k1 and k2. The mean curvature is the average of these H=(k1+k2)/2 and the Gaussian curvature is the product of them K=(k1 * k2). So, MeanCurv is the integral of the absolute value of H and GausCurv is the integral of the absolute value of K. FoldInd and CurvInd are two indices proposed by David Van Essen in a paper from years ago that we also compute. Sorry, I don't have the right reference handy, perhaps someone else on the list does?
cheers Bruce
On Tue, 16 Feb 2016, Karas, Marta wrote:
H!
I am working with data which is an output from the FreeSurfer processing.
I would like to kindly ask you to refer me to materials / precise "mathematical" definitions that could help to understand what are the following parameters:
- MeanCurv - Integrated Rectified Mean Curvature,
- GausCurv - Integrated Rectified Gaussian Curvature,
- FoldInd - Folding Index,
- CurvInd - Intrinsic Curvature Index.
(I have been trying to google but not been successful, unfortunately.)
Kind regards,
Marta Karas, M.S.
Research Assistant, Department of Biostatistics
Richard M. Fairbanks School of Public Health and School of Medicine
Indiana University
tel: 317-665-4551
email: mkaras@iu.edu
this was :
Van Essen, D.C., Drury, H.A., 1997. Structural and functional analyses of human cerebral cortex using a surface-based atlas. J Neurosci 17, 7079–102. Cheers
— Christophe Destrieux, Unité « Imagerie et Cerveau » UMRS INSERM U930, Université François Rabelais de Tours Service de Neurochirurgie Laboratoire d’Anatomie, Faculté de Médecine, 10 Bd Tonnellé - 37032 Tours - France Bureau: +33 2 47 36 61 36 | Fax +33 2 47 36 62 07 | Mel Bureau: christophe.destrieux@univ-tours.fr Web : http://www.u930.tours.inserm.fr/ http://www.u930.tours.inserm.fr/
Le 20 févr. 2016 à 19:22, Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu a écrit :
Hi Marta
A 2D surface (like the cortical white or pial models) has two principal curvatures at each point - one in the direction of maximum curvature and one in the direction of minimum curvature - typically denoted k1 and k2. The mean curvature is the average of these H=(k1+k2)/2 and the Gaussian curvature is the product of them K=(k1 * k2). So, MeanCurv is the integral of the absolute value of H and GausCurv is the integral of the absolute value of K. FoldInd and CurvInd are two indices proposed by David Van Essen in a paper from years ago that we also compute. Sorry, I don't have the right reference handy, perhaps someone else on the list does?
cheers Bruce
On Tue, 16 Feb 2016, Karas, Marta wrote:
H! I am working with data which is an output from the FreeSurfer processing. I would like to kindly ask you to refer me to materials / precise "mathematical" definitions that could help to understand what are the following parameters:
- MeanCurv - Integrated Rectified Mean Curvature,
- GausCurv - Integrated Rectified Gaussian Curvature,
- FoldInd - Folding Index,
- CurvInd - Intrinsic Curvature Index.
(I have been trying to google but not been successful, unfortunately.) Kind regards, Marta Karas, M.S. Research Assistant, Department of Biostatistics Richard M. Fairbanks School of Public Health and School of Medicine Indiana University tel: 317-665-4551 email: mkaras@iu.edu
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Bruce On Sat, 20 Feb 2016, Christophe Destrieux wrote:
this was : Van Essen, D.C., Drury, H.A., 1997. Structural and functional analyses of human cerebral cortex using a surface-based atlas. J Neurosci 17, 7079–102. Cheers
— Christophe Destrieux, Unité « Imagerie et Cerveau » UMRS INSERM U930, Université François Rabelais de Tours Service de Neurochirurgie Laboratoire d’Anatomie, Faculté de Médecine, 10 Bd Tonnellé - 37032 Tours - France Bureau: +33 2 47 36 61 36 | Fax +33 2 47 36 62 07 | Mel Bureau: christophe.destrieux@univ-tours.fr Web : http://www.u930.tours.inserm.fr/
Le 20 févr. 2016 à 19:22, Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> a écrit :Hi Marta
A 2D surface (like the cortical white or pial models) has two principal curvatures at each point - one in the direction of maximum curvature and one in the direction of minimum curvature - typically denoted k1 and k2. The mean curvature is the average of these H=(k1+k2)/2 and the Gaussian curvature is the product of them K=(k1 * k2). So, MeanCurv is the integral of the absolute value of H and GausCurv is the integral of the absolute value of K. FoldInd and CurvInd are two indices proposed by David Van Essen in a paper from years ago that we also compute. Sorry, I don't have the right reference handy, perhaps someone else on the list does?
cheers Bruce
On Tue, 16 Feb 2016, Karas, Marta wrote:
H! I am working with data which is an output from the FreeSurfer processing. I would like to kindly ask you to refer me to materials / precise "mathematical" definitions that could help to understand what are the following parameters: * MeanCurv - Integrated Rectified Mean Curvature, * GausCurv - Integrated Rectified Gaussian Curvature, * FoldInd - Folding Index, * CurvInd - Intrinsic Curvature Index. (I have been trying to google but not been successful, unfortunately.) Kind regards, Marta Karas, M.S. Research Assistant, Department of Biostatistics Richard M. Fairbanks School of Public Health and School of Medicine Indiana University tel: 317-665-4551 email: mkaras@iu.edu
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http://brainvis.wustl.edu/wiki/index.php/Folding/Measurements
On 02/20/2016 01:22 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
Hi Marta
A 2D surface (like the cortical white or pial models) has two principal curvatures at each point - one in the direction of maximum curvature and one in the direction of minimum curvature - typically denoted k1 and k2. The mean curvature is the average of these H=(k1+k2)/2 and the Gaussian curvature is the product of them K=(k1 * k2). So, MeanCurv is the integral of the absolute value of H and GausCurv is the integral of the absolute value of K. FoldInd and CurvInd are two indices proposed by David Van Essen in a paper from years ago that we also compute. Sorry, I don't have the right reference handy, perhaps someone else on the list does?
cheers Bruce
On Tue, 16 Feb 2016, Karas, Marta wrote:
H!
I am working with data which is an output from the FreeSurfer processing.
I would like to kindly ask you to refer me to materials / precise "mathematical" definitions that could help to understand what are the following parameters:
- MeanCurv - Integrated Rectified Mean Curvature,
- GausCurv - Integrated Rectified Gaussian Curvature,
- FoldInd - Folding Index,
- CurvInd - Intrinsic Curvature Index.
(I have been trying to google but not been successful, unfortunately.)
Kind regards,
Marta Karas, M.S.
Research Assistant, Department of Biostatistics
Richard M. Fairbanks School of Public Health and School of Medicine
Indiana University
tel: 317-665-4551
email: mkaras@iu.edu
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