Freesurfer July 2020

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PhD Position on the Brain, Language and Multilingualism
by Narly Golestani 06 Jul '20

06 Jul '20

External Email - Use Caution With the launch of a new ‘NCCR Evolving Language’ (http://www.snf.ch/SiteCollectionDocuments/nfs/Faktenblatt_NCCR_evolvinglang…) which involves nearly 40 different research groups from a large variety of disciplines across Switzerland, we seek to fill a PhD position for a four-year project, starting in September or October 2020. Our goal is to make progress in understanding language giftedness from cognitive, psychological and neural perspectives. To this end, we plan to carry out a set of studies involving acquisition of both behavioral measures of cognitive and language-related abilities (e.g. auditory/perceptual abilities, phonemic perception and production, inductive learning, working memory etc) and of brain imaging measures (fMRI and sMRI). The project will be supervised by Narly Golestani (University of Geneva) and Raphael Berthele (University of Fribourg), and will be done in collaboration with a postdoctoral fellow. Data will be collected with Francophone (mono- and multilingual) subjects. Applicants should hold have a background in cognitive neuroscience or psychology, with solid experience in brain functional neuroimaging (ideally fMRI), behavioral testing and strong statistics skills. Command of the French and English languages is essential. Given hiring restrictions due to Covid19, priority will be given to European applicants, at least for now. The NCCR places great emphasis on gender diversity and we particularly encourage women to apply. Applicants may send a pdf file including a cover letter, a CV, names and contact information of 3 references as well as any other relevant documents to Narly.Golestani(a)unige.ch<mailto:Narly.Golestani@unige.ch> and Raphael.berthele(a)unifr.ch<mailto:Raphael.berthele@unifr.ch>. Deadline for application: July 22nd 2020 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brain and Language Lab Prof. Narly GOLESTANI Department of Psychology Campus Biotech 9 Chemin des Mines, 1202 Genève +41 22 379 53 52 <https://outlook.unige.ch/owa/redir.aspx?SURL=5WTo-p-J-W9FrDydU-0WU4PdMytUGs…>http://www.brainandlanguagelab.org https://twitter.com/brain_lang_lab ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <https://outlook.unige.ch/owa/redir.aspx?SURL=5WTo-p-J-W9FrDydU-0WU4PdMytUGs…>

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cortical thickness
by Nasiriavanaki, Zahra 06 Jul '20

06 Jul '20

Hi Freesurfer experts I have a question about the way FS calculates cortical thickness and I appreciate if you could please respond. I calculated the cortical thickness using read_curv script in a specific ROI in parietal lobe. The mean thickness at that area was 2.4. Does this number show the cortical thickness in millimeter? Thanks MOna

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Destrieux atlas volume based in matlab
by Gian Marco Duma 06 Jul '20

06 Jul '20

External Email - Use Caution Dear Freesurfers experts, I need to obtain in the volume and not in the surface, in MNI space with voxels of 2mm. At this moment I do not need to obtain a parcellation of a single subject, even a parcellation in the volume from the MNI template would be great. Do you have any suggestions? thanks

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Fsaverage stats
by Alina Rojas 06 Jul '20

06 Jul '20

External Email - Use Caution Hello Freesurfer Developers, I'm attempting to compare the cortical thickness values from the stats (?h.aparc.stats) of a stack of subjects and compare them with fsaverage. With aparcstats2table I did it for my subjects without problem, but the fsaverage folder doesn’t have the ?.h.aparc.stats file. I need it to compare the cortical thickness values of the different regions of the brain from the stack of subjects with fsaverage to see if we have a relevant difference. Do you have a suggestion how I can do it? Thanks in advance, Alina

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Re: [Freesurfer] Freeview on Mac not starting due PETSC error
by fsbuild 03 Jul '20

03 Jul '20

External Email - Use Caution Hello Alex, While I'm (fsbuild) and not Ruopeng, I don't mind being mistaken for such a smart/nice guy ;-) .  So I'm cc'ing back to the list so he and others can follow up. It looks like you already have the commands to set FREESURFER_HOME and source the setup script in your $HOME/.bashrc file - as that information is printed out to the terminal after you run bash.  So there should be no need to repeat typing those commands in the terminal window (though it should do no harm).. I guess one question would be if it works for yo to do: 1) reboot your machine 2) start a new terminal window 3) type "bash" .... see output from the freesurfer environment and then run the command ... 4) open -a $FREESURFER_HOME/Freeview.app Then try loading a simple volume in freeview. (Under the freeview File pull down menu, select load volume, then you could try navigating to this file and select it, /Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/subjects/bert/mri/brain.mgz - see screen shot below). I think Ruopeng wanted to know if after the steps above, it also works for you to double click on Freeview.app in the Finder window and launch it (navigate with the Finder to /Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0). You could try making bash your default shell with this command in the terminal window, so you don't have to type bash in step (3). $ chsh -s /bin/bash - R. Alex White wrote: Hello again Ruopeng, I copied those commands into my terminal. To my amazement, Freeview opened successfully with the command  open -a $FREESURFER_HOME/Freeview.appIt was also able to load a volume. And then I was able to start Freeview with the simpler command “freeview.” I can’t explain that.. The FREESURFER_HOME variable didn’t change, and my shell init script had already sourced SetUpFreesurfer.sh. However, I restarted my machine and tried again, and then Freeview wouldn’t open with either command, even following the whole sequence of commands you suggested. Then I tried again, and it worked. For some reason it’s only working intermittently. In response to your other question, when I double-clicked on the app bundle to start freeview, there was no crash report generated.Below is the output to the commands you requested. Do you see anything suspicious? Thanks a million! Alexalexlw@gse7359200 ~ % bash-------- freesurfer-darwin-macOS-7.1.0-20200511-813297b --------Setting up environment for FreeSurfer/FS-FAST (and FSL)FREESURFER_HOME   /Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0FSFAST_HOME       /Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/fsfastFSF_OUTPUT_FORMAT nii.gzSUBJECTS_DIR      /Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/subjectsMNI_DIR           /Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/mniThe default interactive shell is now zsh.To update your account to use zsh, please run `chsh -s /bin/zsh`.For more details, please visit https://support.apple.com/kb/HT208050.bash-3.2$ sw_versProductName: Mac OS XProductVersion: 10.15.5BuildVersion: 19F101bash-3.2$ echo $PATH | tr -s ':' '\n'/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/bin/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/fsfast/bin/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/mni/bin/Users/alexlw/google-cloud-sdk/bin/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.8/bin/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/bin/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/fsfast/bin/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/mni/bin/usr/local/bin/usr/bin/bin/usr/sbin/sbin/opt/X11/bin/Users/alexlw/Library/Python/3.8/bin/Users/alexlw/Library/Python/3.8/bin/Users/alexlw/Library/Python/3.8/binbash-3.2$ ls /opt/X11/binX bmtoa font_cache libpng-config resize x11perf xditview xfsinfo xkeystone xmore xstdcmapXephyr cvt fonttosfnt libpng16-config sessreg x11perfcomp xdm xgamma xkill xpr xtermXfake cxpm freetype-config listres setxkbmap xauth xdmshell xgc xload xprop xvinfoXnest editres fslsfonts lndir showfont xbacklight xdpr xhost xlogo xrandr xwdXorg fc-cache fstobdf luit showrgb xcalc xdpyinfo xinit xlsatoms xrdb xwininfoXquartz fc-cat gccmakedep makedepend smproxy xclipboard xedit xinput xlsclients xrefresh xwudXvfb fc-list glxgears mkfontdir startx xclock xev xkbbell xlsfonts xscopeappres fc-match glxinfo mkfontscale sxpm xcmsdb xeyes xkbcomp xmag xsetatobm fc-pattern gtf oclock twm xcompmgr xfd xkbevd xman xsetmodebdftopcf fc-query iceauth png-fix-itxt ucs2any xconsole xfindproxy xkbprint xmessage xsetpointerbdftruncate fc-scan ico pngfix uxterm xcursorgen xfontsel xkbvleds xmh xsetrootbitmap fc-validate koi8rxterm quartz-wm viewres xcutsel xfs xkbwatch xmodmap xsm  bash-3.2$ export FREESURFER_HOME=/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0  bash-3.2$ ls $FREESURFER_HOMEASegStatsLUT.txt SetUpFreeSurfer.csh diffusion matlab tkmeditParcColorsCMADefectLUT.txt SetUpFreeSurfer.sh docs mni trctrainFreeSurferColorLUT.txt Simple_surface_labels2009.txt etc python uninstall.shFreeSurferEnv.csh WMParcStatsLUT.txt fsafd sessionsFreeSurferEnv.sh average fsfast sources.cshFreeview.app bin lib sources.shSegmentNoLUT.txt build-stamp.txt license.txt subjects  bash-3.2$ source $FREESURFER_HOME/SetUpFreeSurfer.sh-------- freesurfer-darwin-macOS-7.1.0-20200511-813297b --------Setting up environment for FreeSurfer/FS-FAST (and FSL)FREESURFER_HOME   /Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0FSFAST_HOME       /Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/fsfastFSF_OUTPUT_FORMAT nii.gzSUBJECTS_DIR      /Applications/freesurfer/7.1..0/subjectsMNI_DIR           /Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/mni bash-3.2$ echo $PATH | tr -s ':' '\n'/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/bin/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/fsfast/bin/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/mni/bin/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/bin/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/fsfast/bin/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/mni/bin/Users/alexlw/google-cloud-sdk/bin/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.8/bin/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/bin/Applications/freesurfer/7..1.0/fsfast/bin/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/mni/bin/usr/local/bin/usr/bin/bin/usr/sbin/sbin/opt/X11/bin/Users/alexlw/Library/Python/3.8/bin/Users/alexlw/Library/Python/3.8/bin/Users/alexlw/Library/Python/3.8/binbash-3.2$ open -a $FREESURFER_HOME/Freeview.app Freeview opens…sometimes bash-3.2$ otool -L /Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/Freeview.app/Contents/MacOS/freeview /Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/Freeview.app/Contents/MacOS/freeview: /System/Library/Frameworks/Cocoa.framework/Versions/A/Cocoa (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 23.0.0) /System/Library/Frameworks/IOKit.framework/Versions/A/IOKit (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 275.0.0) /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Accelerate (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 4.0.0) @rpath/QtWidgets.framework/Versions/5/QtWidgets (compatibility version 5.12.0, current version 5.12.7) /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/OpenGL (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.0.0) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1252.250.1) /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ApplicationServices (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 50.1.0) /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/CoreServices (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 946.0.0) /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.2.11) @rpath/QtGui.framework/Versions/5/QtGui (compatibility version 5.12.0, current version 5.12.7) @rpath/QtCore.framework/Versions/5/QtCore (compatibility version 5.12.0, current version 5.12.7) /usr/lib/libc++.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 400.9.4) /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit (compatibility version 45.0.0, current version 1671.60.107) /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation (compatibility version 150.0.0, current version 1575.17.0) /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/CoreGraphics (compatibility version 64.0.0, current version 1265.9.0) /System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation (compatibility version 300.0.0, current version 1575.17.0) /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 228.0.0)On Jun 14, 2020, at 8:49 PM, fsbuild <fsbuild(a)contbay.com> wrote:Hello Alex,See what you get for results on your Mac with the commands listed below.  Your version of MacOS may be slightly different.  It should work to cut and paste the commands below.- R.- - - - - buildqa-Mac:/tmp % bashThe default interactive shell is now zsh.To update your account to use zsh, please run `chsh -s /bin/zsh`.For more details, please visit https://support.apple.com/kb/HT208050.buildqa-Mac:/tmp> sw_versProd…: Mac OS XProductVersion: 10.15.2BuildVersion: 19C57buildqa-Mac:/tmp> echo $PATH | tr -s ':' '\n' /usr/local/bin/usr/bin/bin/usr/sbin/sbin/opt/X11/bin/Users/buildqa/binbuildqa-Mac:/tmp> ls /opt/X11/binX@               cvt*             freetype-config* lndir*           showrgb*         xclipboard*      xev*             xkbcomp*         xman*            xsetpointer*Xephyr*          cxpm*            fslsfonts*       luit*            smproxy*         xclock*          xeyes*           xkbevd*          xmessage*        xsetroot*Xfake*           editres*         fstobdf*         makedepend*      startx*          xcmsdb*          xfd*             xkbprint*        xmh*             xsm*Xnest*           fc-cache*        gccmakedep*      mkfontdir*       sxpm*            xcompmgr*        xfindproxy*      xkbvleds*        xmodmap*         xstdcmap*Xorg*            fc-cat*          glxgears*        mkfontscale*     twm*             xconsole*        xfontsel*        xkbwatch*        xmore*           xterm*Xquartz*         fc-list*         glxinfo*         oclock*          ucs2any*         xcursorgen*      xfs*             xkeystone*       xpr*             xvinfo*Xvfb*            fc-match*        gtf*             png-fix-itxt*    uxterm*          xcutsel*         xfsinfo*         xkill*           xprop*           xwd*appres*          fc-pattern*      iceauth*         pngfix*          viewres*         xditview*        xgamma*          xload*           xrandr*          xwininfo*atobm*           fc-query*        ico*             quartz-wm*       x11perf*         xdm*             xgc*             xlogo*           xrdb*            xwud*bdftopcf*        fc-scan*         koi8rxterm*      resize*          x11perfcomp*     xdmshell*        xhost*           xlsatoms*        xrefresh*bdftruncate*     fc-validate*     libpng-config@   sessreg*         xauth*           xdpr*            xinit*           xlsclients*      xscope*bitmap*          font_cache*      libpng16-config* setxkbmap*       xbacklight*      xdpyinfo*        xinput*          xlsfonts*        xset*bmtoa*           fonttosfnt*      listres*         showfont*        xcalc*           xedit*           xkbbell*         xmag*            xsetmode*buildqa-Mac:/tmp> export FREESURFER_HOME=/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0buildqa-Mac:/tmp> ls $FREESURFER_HOMEASegStatsLUT.txt*              SetUpFreeSurfer.sh*            etc/                           sources.csh*DefectLUT.txt*                 Simple_surface_labels2009.txt* fsafd/                         sources.sh*FreeSurferColorLUT.txt*        WMParcStatsLUT.txt*            fsfast/                        subjects/FreeSurferEnv.csh*             average/                       lib/                           tkmeditParcColorsCMA*FreeSurferEnv.sh*              bin/                           matlab/                        trctrain/Freeview.app/                  build-stamp.txt*               mni/                           uninstall.sh*SegmentNoLUT.txt*              diffusion/                     python/SetUpFreeSurfer.csh*           docs/                          sessions/buildqa-Mac:/tmp> source $FREESURFER_HOME/SetUpFreeSurfer.sh-------- freesurfer-darwin-macOS-7.1.0-20200511-813297b --------Setting up environment for FreeSurfer/FS-FAST (and FSL)FREESURFER_HOME   /Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0FSFAST_HOME       /Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/fsfastFSF_OUTPUT_FORMAT nii..gzSUBJECTS_DIR      /Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/subjectsMNI_DIR           /Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/mnibuildqa-Mac:/tmp> echo $PATH | tr -s ':' '\n'/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/bin/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/fsfast/bin/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/mni/bin/usr/local/bin/usr/bin/bin/usr/sbin/sbin/opt/X11/bin/Users/buildqa/binbuildqa-Mac:/tmp> open -a $FREESURFER_HOME/Freeview.app<...pop up window asking to accept network connections, then freeview should open in a separate window … then exit freeview...>buildqa-Mac:/tmp> otool -L /Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/Freeview.app/Contents/MacOS/freeview /Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0/Freeview.app/Contents/MacOS/freeview: /System/Library/Frameworks/Cocoa.framework/Versions/A/Cocoa (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 23.0.0) /System/Library/Frameworks/IOKit.framework/Versions/A/IOKit (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 275.0.0) /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Accelerate (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 4.0.0) @rpath/QtWidgets.framework/Versions/5/QtWidgets (compatibility version 5.12.0, current version 5.12..7) /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/OpenGL (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.0.0) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1252.250.1) /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ApplicationServices (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 50.1.0) /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/CoreServices (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 946.0.0) /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.2.11) @rpath/QtGui.framework/Versions/5/QtGui (compatibility version 5.12.0, current version 5.12.7) @rpath/QtCore.framework/Versions/5/QtCore (compatibility version 5.12.0, current version 5.12.7) /usr/lib/libc++.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 400.9.4) /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit (compatibility version 45.0.0, current version 1671.60.107) /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation (compatibility version 150.0.0, current version 1575.17.0) /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/CoreGraphics (compatibility version 64.0.0, current version 1265.9..0) /System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation (compatibility version 300.0.0, current version 1575.17.0) /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 228.0.0)On Jun 14, 2020, at 18:34, fsbuild <fsbuild(a)contbay.com> wrote:        External Email - Use Caution        Hello Alex,Did you try the install with the 7.1.0 release using the .pkg file installer from https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/7.1.0/free… you did not go thru all the security exemptions (not related to your firewall settings) on Catalina, then something may be blocked from running.  The install procedure to follow using the .pkg installer is under,https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki//FS7_macI did this on my mac running Catalina and had no issues running freeview..- R.On Jun 14, 2020, at 17:45, Alex White <alexander.l.white(a)gmail.com> wrote:        External Email - Use Caution        Hi Ruopeng I tried deleting that .plist file, but it did not work, even after restarting the machine. The same PETSC crash occurred when I try to start Freeview either through the terminal or clicking on the icon. Thanks for your continued help, AlexOn Jun 14, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Wang, Ruopeng <RWANG4(a)mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:Can you delete this file and wait for a minute and then try starting freeview again?/Users/USERNAME/Library/Preferences/edu.harvard.mgh.nmr.FreeView.plistReplace USERNAME with your actual username. On Jun 14, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Alex White <alexander.l.white(a)gmail.com> wrote:        External Email - Use Caution        Hello Ruopeng, Thanks for the quick reply! I tried launching Freeview by double-clicking on the app icon, and I tried installing the latest build. The same crash occurs (full output copied again below. Also, I do have XQuartz 2.7.11 and it can run xeyes. And yes, FREESURFER_HOME and SetUpFreesurfer.sh both reference the current version 7.1.0. I didn’t see any LD_LIBRARY_PATH in my shell init file. Here’s what’s in my .bashrc file: % cat .bashrc#set freesurfer directories and set up scriptexport FREESURFER_HOME=/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.0export SUBJECTS_DIR=$FREESURFER_HOME/subjectssource $FREESURFER_HOME/SetUpFreeSurfer.shAny other ideas? Thanks, AlexCrash output:  ~ % freeview[0]PETSC ERROR: ------------------------------------------------------------------------[0]PETSC ERROR: Caught signal number 11 SEGV: Segmentation Violation, probably memory access out of range[0]PETSC ERROR: Try option -start_in_debugger or -on_error_attach_debugger[0]PETSC ERROR: or see http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-as/documentation/troubleshootin…: or try http://valgrind.org on linux or man libgmalloc on Apple to find memory corruption errors[0]PETSC ERROR: configure using --with-debugging=yes, recompile, link, and run [0]PETSC ERROR: to get more information on the crash.[0]PETSC ERROR: --------------------- Error Message ------------------------------------[0]PETSC ERROR: Signal received![0]PETSC ERROR: ------------------------------------------------------------------------[0]PETSC ERROR: Petsc Release Version 2.3.3, Patch 16, Tue Sep 23 10:02:49 CDT 2008 HG revision: 31306062cd1a6f6a2496fccb4878f485c9b91760[0]PETSC ERROR: See docs/changes/index.html for recent updates.[0]PETSC ERROR: See docs/faq.html for hints about trouble shooting.[0]PETSC ERROR: See docs/index.html for manual pages.[0]PETSC ERROR: ------------------------------------------------------------------------[0]PETSC ERROR: Unknown Name on a darwin15. named gse7359200..local by alexlw Sun Jun 14 10:46:00 2020[0]PETSC ERROR: Libraries linked from /autofs/cluster/pubsw/arch/MacOS10.11/packages/petsc/2..3.3/src/petsc/lib/darwin15.6.0-c-opt[0]PETSC ERROR: Configure run at Mon Apr 22 13:14:02 2019[0]PETSC ERROR: Configure options --with-debugging=no --download-f-blas-lapack=0 --download-mpich=1 --with-mpi=1 --with-x=0 --with-gnu-copyright-code=0 --with-shared=0 COPTFLAGS=-O3 CXXOPTFLAGS=-O3 FOPTFLAGS=-O3[0]PETSC ERROR: ------------------------------------------------------------------------[0]PETSC ERROR: User provided function() line 0 in unknown directory unknown file[unset]: aborting job:application called MPI_Abort(MPI_COMM_WORLD, 59) - process 0On Jun 14, 2020, at 6:56 AM, Wang, Ruopeng <RWANG4(a)mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:HI Alex,Have you tried launching freeview by double-clicking freeview.app bundle? Can you also try the latest build from here?https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/UpdateFreeviewBest,RuopengOn Jun 14, 2020, at 12:07 AM, Alex White <alexander.l.white(a)gmail.com> wrote:        External Email - Use Caution        Hello freesurfer team! I can’t get Freeview to start up on my Mac (Catalina v 10.15.15). It worked intermittently earlier this year, then stopped working. I updated Freeview, and then all of freesurfer, and still have the same problem. So now I have this version of freesurfer:  freesurfer-darwin-macOS-7.1.0-20200511-813297bTyping “freeview” into the terminal generates the following error: [0]PETSC ERROR: ------------------------------------------------------------------------[0]PETSC ERROR: Caught signal number 11 SEGV: Segmentation Violation, probably memory access out of range[0]PETSC ERROR: Try option -start_in_debugger or -on_error_attach_debugger[0]PETSC ERROR: or see http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-as/documentation/troubleshootin…: or try http://valgrind.org on linux or man libgmalloc on Apple to find memory corruption errors[0]PETSC ERROR: configure using --with-debugging=yes, recompile, link, and run [0]PETSC ERROR: to get more information on the crash.[0]PETSC ERROR: --------------------- Error Message ------------------------------------[0]PETSC ERROR: Signal received![0]PETSC ERROR: ------------------------------------------------------------------------[0]PETSC ERROR: Petsc Release Version 2.3.3, Patch 16, Tue Sep 23 10:02:49 CDT 2008 HG revision: 31306062cd1a6f6a2496fccb4878f485c9b91760[0]PETSC ERROR: See docs/changes/index.html for recent updates.[0]PETSC ERROR: See docs/faq.html for hints about trouble shooting.[0]PETSC ERROR: See docs/index.html for manual pages.[0]PETSC ERROR: ------------------------------------------------------------------------[0]PETSC ERROR: Unknown Name on a darwin15. named gse7359200.local by alexlw Sat Jun 13 20:58:43 2020[0]PETSC ERROR: Libraries linked from /autofs/cluster/pubsw/arch/MacOS10.11/packages/petsc/2.3.3/src/petsc/lib/darwin15.6.0-c-opt[0]PETSC ERROR: Configure run at Mon Apr 22 13:14:02 2019[0]PETSC ERROR: Configure options --with-debugging=no --download-f-blas-lapack=0 --download-mpich=1 --with-mpi=1 --with-x=0 --with-gnu-copyright-code=0 --with-shared=0 COPTFLAGS=-O3 CXXOPTFLAGS=-O3 FOPTFLAGS=-O3[0]PETSC ERROR: ------------------------------------------------------------------------[0]PETSC ERROR: User provided function() line 0 in unknown directory unknown file[unset]: aborting job:application called MPI_Abort(MPI_COMM_WORLD, 59) - process 0I searched through the log of previous emails and found several others with “PETSC errors” but could not discern a common solution. Help? Thank you, Alex White PS: I also can’t get Freeview to launch on a linux machine, and will send a report on that in a separate email. _______________________________________________Freesurfer mailing listFreesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduhttps://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer_______________________________________________Freesurfer mailing listFreesurfer(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.eduMailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mail.nmr.mgh..harvard.edu" claiming to be https://mail.nmr.mgh..harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer______… mailing listFreesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduhttps://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer_______________________________________________Freesurfer mailing listFreesurfer@nmr.mgh..harvard.eduhttps://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer_______________________________________________Freesurfer mailing listFreesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduhttps://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer_______________________________________________Freesurfer mailing listFreesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduhttps://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard..edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer

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Error with "recon-all -make all" following multiple manual editing
by Matthieu VANHOUTTE 03 Jul '20

03 Jul '20

External Email - Use Caution Dear Freesurfer's experts, Havng done multiple types of manual editing in two subjects, I relaunched the recon-all process (Freesurfer 6.0.1) with the flag "-make all". However, during the process, I goth for both subjects the following error message: / / /make: *** [/netapp/vol2_agewell/pro/IMAP/imap_mvh/FS6.0.1/awellv1s097/mri/aseg.presurf.mgz] Error 1/ /recon-all -s /netapp/vol2_agewell/pro/IMAP/imap_mvh/FS6.0.1/awellv3s024 -ccseg ERROR: Flag -ccseg unrecognized./ Following the troubleshooting site (https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/TroubleshootingDataV6.0) I have over-writed the "recon-all.makefile" file since I use the 6.0.1 version of Freesurfer. Thanks for helping. Best, Matthieu

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Longitudinal Hippocampal Subfields - negative subfield volume values
by Ashwati Vipin (NNI) 03 Jul '20

03 Jul '20

External Email - Use Caution Dear FreeSurfer Developers, I've run the longitudinal hippocampal subfield pipeline using the following command on freesurfer version 6.0: longHippoSubfieldsT1.sh PAWS001_base_FS I received no errors and everything seems to have run fine. But on computing the subfields using the following command: quantifyHippocampalSubfields.sh T1.long PAWS_longitudinalhipsubfields.txt I noticed that all of subfields have negative volume values. I checked the individual text files within each subject's timepoint and indeed the output is showing negative volumes as shown below: [Inline image OWAPstImg380689] I have also tested the same subject and run the cross-sectional hippocampal subfield pipeline using the following command: recon-all -s PAWS001_TP1_FS -hippocampal-subfields-T1 I received the following output with volumes: [Inline image OWAPstImg750361] I'm really not sure why the longitudinal pipeline is showing negative values. Could it be a Freesurfer version issue? Am I doing something wrong? It is especially mind-boggling since I receive no error and the command is running smoothly! Please help. Thank you so much!! Best regards, Ashwati [cid:image42562a.PNG@52924320.49ad9bd1] nnitagl1

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Cerebellum segmentation
by Álvaro Deleglise 03 Jul '20

03 Jul '20

External Email - Use Caution Hi! I was wondering how can I run a segmentation of the cerebellum with a different strategy than the one provided by the default subcortical segmentation (which only differentiates lh and rh white and grey matter). I'm currently analyzing longitudinal data from a motor learning experiment in which the cerebellum it's very important, so I would like to have more cerebellar ROIs. I recently found an article by Makris et al., 2003, *Human Cerebellum- Surface-Assisted Cortical Parcellation and Volumetry with Magnetic Resonance Imaging,* but I'm not sure if there is any implementation of this strategy. Does anyone knows how can I use it? Or if there is another segmentation strategies available? *Thanks in advance.* * Álvaro Deleglise *

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Re: [Freesurfer] Subfield parcellation in 1.5 T and 2.6 mm Thickness
by Iglesias Gonzalez, Juan E. 02 Jul '20

02 Jul '20

Dear Victor, Sorry for the slow response. 1.5 T is not a problem. Do you have a companion 1mm T1? If no: then the main problem is the main recon stream. If yes: what is the in-plane resolution and orientation? If it’s a high-res coronal, it may help with the subfields. For the thalamus, I’d just use the 1 mm T1. Cheers, /Eugenio Juan Eugenio Iglesias Senior research fellow CMIC (UCL), MGH (HMS) and CSAIL (MIT) http://www.jeiglesias.com From: <freesurfer-bounces(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of "Zeng, Victor (BIDMC - Keshavan - Psychiatry)" <vzeng(a)bidmc.harvard.edu> Reply-To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Date: Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 17:56 To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Cc: "joliehoang22(a)gmail.com" <joliehoang22(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Freesurfer] Subfield parcellation in 1.5 T and 2.6 mm Thickness Hi FS developers, We were wondering whether a MRI scan that has 2.6 mm thickness + is 1.5 T would be sufficient for a subfield analysis (amygdala, hippocampus, thalamus). Thanks, Victor Zeng Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center Keshavan Lab -- ________________________________ This message is intended for the use of the person(s) to whom it may be addressed. It may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution, copying, or use of this information is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please permanently delete it and immediately notify the sender. Thank you.

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Fw: Hard Error Troubleshooting
by McManus, Peter 02 Jul '20

02 Jul '20

?Hello, I'm emailing for assistance regarding 6 hard-failed FS subjects (out of 1000) that were re-processed and still prematurely terminated at different pre-processing stages (using FS 7.1). The job was completed on a SLURM computing cluster affiliated with Boston Children's Hospital's E2 server, and I've attached the recon-all.logs for clarity, although none of the logs report an "exit with errors" but rather simply stop running. Do you have any idea what the issue(s) might be? Hopefully this is enough information to work with, as I'm not the one who actually ran the commands and am a new RA trying to get acclimated to the computational environment at BCH. Thanks for the help. Best, Peter

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