Thanks again, for the record, I'm using freesurfer version 5.3.0 on Centos 6. On 9/09/2014 11:00 PM, _andreia_@sapo.pt wrote:
Hi Will,
Just to clarify, what version of FS are you using? I think it might not be 5.0 and I don't know if everything aplies if we are using different versions.
- Yes, it is only based on the pial surface (and these command lines are
for the aparc, DK altas). The second set provides the surface area for each hemisphere without including, for example, the pial surface that you see in the hippocampus which is not accurate and one should not care about. In the end, the second set gives you the sum of the areas in aparc, thus, you can just make a sum of that parcellation if you want. I just realized that.
- No. In the new stats file, the value that you want is at the bottom:
# ColHeaders StructName NumVert *SurfArea* GrayVol ThickAvg ThickStd MeanCurv GausCurv FoldInd CurvInd
And when running aparcstats2table that's the value you should get in the table. I think that *# Measure Cortex, WhiteSurfArea, White Surface Total Area* may be including more stuff since it is bigger.
If what you want is only the total hemisphere surface area you only need to run the second set of commands. If you want the area of each DK altas parcellation then run the first set and then simply add them to get total hemisphere surface area.
Someone from Freesurfer staff will correct me if I'm wrong. (Please) I'm Ccing Doug since he was replying to your previous emails.
Let's wait for their feedback.
Andreia
Citando will brown willbrown1987@gmail.com:
Thanks Andreia, this does appear to have worked. Please forgive my ignorance but I do just want to double check two things;
- The first commands you have given provide the stats for the two
hemispheres of the cerebral cortex only based on the pial surface, whereas the second set of commands provide the pial boundary stats for the whole brain rather than just cortex?
- The surface area value that I am looking for (grey matter surface area
at the grey/pial boundary) is listed in the new stats table next to: *# Measure Cortex, WhiteSurfArea, White Surface Total Area,* ?
Thanks again, Will
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 5:36 PM, will brown willbrown1987@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks very much Andreia, yes this does look like what I want. I haven't had a chance to test it yet but it does indeed appear to answer my question. Thanks to those that have offered answers, to clarify, I did indeed mean the surface area of the pial surface rather than the white/grey boundary.
Will
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 1:12 AM, _andreia_@sapo.pt wrote:
*Hi Will, I use the following commands to get surface area from the pial surface: In the subject label dir:*
*mris_anatomical_stats -mgz -cortex ../label/lh.cortex.label -f ../stats/lh.aparc.pial.stats -b -a ../label/lh.aparc.annot -c ../label/aparc.annot.ctab SUBJ lh pial*
*mris_anatomical_stats -mgz -cortex ../label/rh.cortex.label -f ../stats/rh.aparc.pial.stats -b -a ../label/rh.aparc.annot -c ../label/aparc.annot.ctab SUBJ rh pial *
*Then run aparcstats2table using aparc.pial instead of aparc (only because I called this new parcellation aparc.pial) To get the total surface area of each hemisphere I use: In the subject stats dir:*
*mris_anatomical_stats -l ../label/lh.cortex.label -f lh.total_pial.stats -b SUBJ lh pial*
*mris_anatomical_stats -l ../label/rh.cortex.label -f rh.total_pial.stats -b SUBJ rh pial*
*Then run aparcstats2table using total_pial instead of aparc (again, only because I called this new parcellation total_pial. You may call it whatever you'd like)*
*Just remeber to leave the specified dirs when creating the tables. If you dont't I think they will be created in the current dir. I use FS 5.0. Is this what you want? Best, Andreia*
*Citando will brown <willbrown1987@gmail.com willbrown1987@gmail.com>:*
*Hi all,*
*I messed up this question recently so just want to clarify and try again. We want to know the cortical gray matter surface area of our subjects but are unclear about how to get this info.*
*?.aparc.stats reports:*
*Measure Cortex, WhiteSurfArea, White Surface Total Area, XXXX, mm^2*
*How about the gray matter?*
*Thanks,* *Will*