Hi all,
Thank you very much! I did 2 runs of each of the stimuli I described in one session (I previously got some pretty decent maps from these data using the mrVista package from Stanford).
I followed the retinotopy instructions from the FS wiki ( http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsFastIndividualRetinotopyAnalysis) but the results did not make much sense. I guess I need to use some other commands or change some parameters in order to view reasonable eccentricity and polar angle maps. I have not managed to find any other documentation on how to do this. This is what my "raw angle" looks like: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6981172/raw_angle.tif
Best,
Anders
2011/7/7 Jonathan Polimeni jonp@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
hi anders,
the optimal set of stimulus parameters will depend somewhat on what cortical area(s) you are trying to map and on the details of your acquisition. in general, stimulating with both clockwise- and counterclockwise-rotating wedges for polar angle mapping and with both expanding and contracting rings for eccentricity mapping improves the accuracy of the maps, and the proper analysis of this data is implemented fsfast. the width of the wedge or the ring will depend on the cortical area you are trying to stimulate, but you may want to consider a thinner wedge. also, 8 Hz flickering has been shown to activate area V1 more strongly than other frequencies, and smoothly moving stimuli can also help. then, depending on your voxel size, field strength, coil array, etc., you could include more cycles and may need to average together multiple runs.
marty, roger et al. have a few nice papers that i'd recommend that discuss some of these details relating to phase-encoded retinotopic stimuli.
Sereno & Tootell. Curr Opin Neurobiol. 2005;15(2):135-44. Tootell et al. J Neurosci. 1997;17(18):7060-78. Sereno et al. Science. 1995;268(5212):889-93.
(the '97 paper discusses the ring/wedge thickness, the '95 paper discusses the advantages of using both expanding + contracting stimuli, and the '05 paper discusses the use of smoothly varying stimuli.)
hope this helps. were you able to get reasonable looking maps with the stimuli you described below?
-jon
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Anders Hougaard wrote:
Dear freesurfers,
Which stimuli do you think provide the best retinotopic maps?
I have done a retinotopy analysis using the following stimuli:
Polar angle:
- 45 deg counter-clockwise rotating wedge
- 8 unique positions
- flickering at 2 Hz
- stimulation period: 36 sec
- no. of cycles: 6
- TR = 3
Eccentricity:
- expanding ring
- 8 unique positions
- flickering at 2 Hz
- stimulation period: 36 sec
- no. of cycles: 6
- TR = 3
Any suggestions on how to optimize this stimulation? E.g. different period length, more runs, bi-directional, different TR
Thank you!
Best regards,
Anders
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