you can use anything that you can register the the FS anatomical
On 11/13/2017 04:34 PM, lanbo Wang wrote:
Can I use data processed by other tool like FSL, or I can only use DTI image after Freesurfer processing?
On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Douglas Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
Yes On 11/10/17 2:45 PM, lanbo Wang wrote:Thank you very much, it's work. I have another question, this is for structural imaging. Can I use those steps for fmri or DTI imaging? On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Douglas Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote: Don't use --conjunct, just mri_concat file1 file2 ... file N --o output On 11/10/17 12:56 PM, lanbo Wang wrote:I firstly did mris_preproc separately. Secondly used fscalc to reverse left symptom subjects. Thirdly used mri_concat --conjunct to combine all the subjects together. The code is: 1.mris_preproc --target fsaverage_sym --hemi lh \ --xhemi --paired-diff \ --srcsurfreg fsaverage_sym.sphere.reg \ --meas thickness \ --out lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s02.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s02.mg>h \ --s subj_02_1 2. fscalc lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s09.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s09.mg>h mul -1 -o lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s09.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s09.mg>h 3.mri_concat --conjunct --i lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s02.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s02.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s03.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s03.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s04.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s04.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s05.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s05.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s06.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s06.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s08.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s08.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s09.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s09.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s10.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s10.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s11.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s11.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s12.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s12.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s13.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s13.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s14.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s14.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s15.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s15.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s16.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s16.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s17.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s17.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s18.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s18.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s19.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s19.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s20.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s20.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s21.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s21.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s22.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s22.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s24.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s24.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s25.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s25.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s26.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s26.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s27.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s27.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s29.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s29.mg>h lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s32.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.s32.mg>h --o lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.mgh 4.smooth 5.mri_glmfit --y lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm10.mgh --glmdir glm.lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm10 --osgm --surf fsaverage_sym lh On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Douglas Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote: Do you only have one subject in your input file? You need to run mris_preproc separately for each subject, create a different file for each, then mri_concat the files together On 11/9/17 6:20 PM, lanbo Wang wrote:Dr. Douglas, I try #3 method, when I run mri_glmfit, get error. The code I used: [mtobia@localhost lh.lh-rh.thickness]$ mri_glmfit --y lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm10.mgh --glmdir glm.lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm10 --osgm --surf fsaverage_sym lh Reading source surface /HD4/subjects_results_symptom//fsaverage_sym/surf/lh.white Number of vertices 163842 Number of faces 327680 Total area 61972.710938 AvgVtxArea 0.378247 AvgVtxDist 0.693419 StdVtxDist 0.190498 $Id: mri_glmfit.c,v 1.196.2.8 2012/11/01 18:51:41 greve Exp $ cwd /HD4/subjects_results_symptom/lh.lh-rh.thickness cmdline mri_glmfit --y lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm10.mgh --glmdir glm.lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm10 --osgm --surf fsaverage_sym lh sysname Linux hostname localhost.localdomain machine x86_64 user mtobia FixVertexAreaFlag = 1 UseMaskWithSmoothing 1 OneSampleGroupMean 1 y /HD4/subjects_results_symptom/lh.lh-rh.thickness/lh.lh-rh.th <http://lh.lh-rh.th>ickness.sm10.mgh logyflag 0 usedti 0 labelmask /HD4/subjects_results_symptom//fsaverage_sym/label/lh.cortex.label maskinv 0 glmdir glm.lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm10 IllCondOK 0 ReScaleX 1 DoFFx 0 Creating output directory glm.lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm10 Loading y from /HD4/subjects_results_symptom/lh.lh-rh.thickness/lh.lh-rh.th <http://lh.lh-rh.th>ickness.sm10.mgh Saving design matrix to glm.lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm10/Xg.dat Normalized matrix condition is 1 Matrix condition is 1 Found 146902 points in label. Pruning voxels by thr: 0.000000 Found 146902 voxels in mask Saving mask to glm.lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm10/mask.mgh Reshaping mriglm->mask... search space = 79288.081914 DOF = 0 ERROR: DOF = 0 The code I used before this one is How can I resolve this problem. Thanks, Lanbo On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Douglas N Greve <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote: which code. I gave 3 options below, which one did you use? On 11/07/2017 02:43 PM, lanbo Wang wrote: > I try to use this code to compare left and right hemisphere by paired > t-test and add age as covariate. > > Thanks, > Lanbo > > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Douglas N Greve > <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>> wrote: > > which method are you trying to implement? If #3, then you need to run > mris_preproc separately for each subject, and then run that fscalc > command > > > On 11/07/2017 11:33 AM, lanbo Wang wrote: > > Hi Douglas, > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > I created the fsgd file as you show me, and run code like this. Am I > > right? > > 1. > > mris_preproc --fsgd Subject.xhemi.dat \ > > --target fsaverage_sym --hemi lh \ > > --xhemi --paired-diff \ > > --srcsurfreg fsaverage_sym.sphere.reg \ > > --meas thickness \ > > --out lh.lh-rh.thickness.age.sm00.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.age.sm00.mg>h \ > > --s subj_02_1 --s subj_04_1 --s subj_05_1 --s subj_06_1 --s > > subj_08_1 --s subj_09_1 --s subj_10_1 --s subj_11_1 --s > subj_12_1 > > --s subj_13_1 --s subj_14_1 --s subj_15_1 --s subj_16_1 --s > > subj_17_1 --s subj_18_1 --s subj_20_1 --s subj_21_1 --s > subj_22_1 > > --s subj_24_1 --s subj_25_1 --s subj_26_1 --s subj_27_1 --s > > subj_29_1 --s subj_32_1 > > > > 2. > > mri_glmfit --y lh.lh-rh.thickness.age.sm10.mg <http://lh.lh-rh.thickness.age.sm10.mg>h --glmdir > > glm.lh.lh-rh.thickness.age.sm10 \ > > --fsgd Subject.xhemi.dat \ > > --C Avg-thickness-age-Cor.mtx \ > > --surf fsaverage_sym lh > > > > Attachment is fsgd and Avg-thickness-age-cor.mtx. > > > > All best, > > Lanbo Wang > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Bruce Fischl > > <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <mailto:fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> > <mailto:fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> > <mailto:fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>>> wrote: > > > > Hi Danny > > > > you need to give us more information if you want us to help you. > > Please include the command you ran and the entire screen output. > > > > cheers > > Bruce > > > > > > On Tue, 7 Nov 2017, Danny Deng wrote: > > > > Dear FDs, > > I encountered an odd situation: > > > > My free surfer will always shut down when I run command. > > > > My MacOS version is 10.12.6 (16G29) processor: 1.6 GHz Intel > > Core i5 > > > > I don’t know if the compatibility is fine with my download > > version (MacOS Lion OS X 10.7 (64b > > intel)Stable v6.0.0) > > > > Please kindly suggest. > > > > Thanks ver much > > > > Best Regards,Danny Deng > > > > > > On Nov 7, 2017, at 7:14 AM, Douglas N Greve > > <greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> > <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> > <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 11/06/2017 12:03 PM, lanbo Wang wrote: > > Dear experts, > > > > I have two questions about hemisphere analysis: > > > > 1) When I run left-right hemisphere paired t-test, > can I > > add age as > > covariate? If use fsgd to add covariate, to this > paired > > t-test > > analysis, how to make the fsgd table? > > > > use this one-group, one-covariate example > > https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/Fsgdf1G1V <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/Fsgdf1G1V> > <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/Fsgdf1G1V <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/Fsgdf1G1V>> > > <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/Fsgdf1G1V <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/Fsgdf1G1V> > <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/Fsgdf1G1V <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/Fsgdf1G1V>>> > > 2) I want to reorganize the hemisphere from > left-right to > > symptom-nosymptom according to body symptom side > record > > and compare > > different between symptom hemisphere and nosymptom > > hemisphere. Can I > > use freesurfer to do it? > > > > Yes, though it is a little tricky with multiple ways, each > > complicated > > in its own way. > > 1. Create your own design matrix. You can use the one > created by > > mri_glmfit to start. Assuming you want > > symptomHemi-nosymptomHemi, then, > > in each subject whose symptomHemi is rh, multiply its > line in > > the design > > matrix by -1. Then pass this design matrix to mri_glmfit > with --X > > instead of passing an FSGD file. > > 2. Load the output of mris_preproc into matlab, eg, y = > > MRIread('y.mgh');, then change the sign as in #1 above, eg, > > y.vol(:,:,:,10) = -y.vol(:,:,:,10); and so on for each > applicable > > subject. Then save the data with MRIwrite(y,'new.y.mgh');, > > then run > > mri_glmfit as normal with the new file. > > 3. Run mris_preproc for each subject separately to > generate an > > lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.subject10.mgh file. 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