Hi all,
I am hoping to find some cerebellar volumes, but I don't know how to get them. I already did recon -all on all my subjects, but I cannot find any of these numbers in the .stats files. Am I just missing them, or does the recon all not do any cerebellar stuff?
Best,
Marja
Hi Marja
we do whole cerebellum white matter and gray matter, but things like lobules aren't released yet.
cheers Bruce On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote:
Hi all,
I am hoping to find some cerebellar volumes, but I don't know how to get them. I already did recon -all on all my subjects, but I cannot find any of these numbers in the .stats files. Am I just missing them, or does the recon all not do any cerebellar stuff?
Best,
Marja
Ok thanks Bruce.
If I want to use these cerebellar white matter volumes, I assume I also need to use the eTIV as regressor right? (just like for the cerebral volumes?
And maybe a stupid question, but can I use the eTIV as regressor by just dividing the structure volume by the eTIV?
Best,
Marja
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
Hi Marja
we do whole cerebellum white matter and gray matter, but things like lobules aren't released yet.
cheers Bruce
On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote:
Hi all,
I am hoping to find some cerebellar volumes, but I don't know how to get them. I already did recon -all on all my subjects, but I cannot find any of these numbers in the .stats files. Am I just missing them, or does the recon all not do any cerebellar stuff?
Best,
Marja
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Hi Marja
yes, you can just use those volumes, and no, including it as a regressor isn't the same as dividing by eTIV (although you can do that instead).
cheers Bruce On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote:
Ok thanks Bruce.
If I want to use these cerebellar white matter volumes, I assume I also need to use the eTIV as regressor right? (just like for the cerebral volumes?
And maybe a stupid question, but can I use the eTIV as regressor by just dividing the structure volume by the eTIV?
Best,
Marja
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote: Hi Marja
we do whole cerebellum white matter and gray matter, but things like lobules aren't released yet. cheers Bruce On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote: Hi all, I am hoping to find some cerebellar volumes, but I don't know how to get them. I already did recon -all on all my subjects, but I cannot find any of these numbers in the .stats files. Am I just missing them, or does the recon all not do any cerebellar stuff? Best, Marja
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Ok Thanks! Just to be sure, the eTIV would also make the cerebellar numbers more informative right?
Best,
Marja
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:14 PM, Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
Hi Marja
yes, you can just use those volumes, and no, including it as a regressor isn't the same as dividing by eTIV (although you can do that instead).
cheers Bruce On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote:
Ok thanks Bruce.
If I want to use these cerebellar white matter volumes, I assume I also need to use the eTIV as regressor right? (just like for the cerebral volumes?
And maybe a stupid question, but can I use the eTIV as regressor by just dividing the structure volume by the eTIV?
Best,
Marja
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Bruce Fischl < fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote: Hi Marja
we do whole cerebellum white matter and gray matter, but things like lobules aren't released yet. cheers Bruce On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote: Hi all, I am hoping to find some cerebellar volumes, but I don't know how to get them. I already did recon -all on all my subjects, but I cannot find any of these numbers in the .stats files. Am I just missing them, or does the recon all not do any cerebellar stuff? Best, Marja
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if you expect cerebellar volume to vary in an uninteresting way with head size (which I think you probably do)
On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote:
Ok Thanks! Just to be sure, the eTIV would also make the cerebellar numbers more informative right?
Best,
Marja
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:14 PM, Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote: Hi Marja
yes, you can just use those volumes, and no, including it as a regressor isn't the same as dividing by eTIV (although you can do that instead). cheers Bruce On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote: Ok thanks Bruce. If I want to use these cerebellar white matter volumes, I assume I also need to use the eTIV as regressor right? (just like for the cerebral volumes? And maybe a stupid question, but can I use the eTIV as regressor by just dividing the structure volume by the eTIV? Best, Marja On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote: Hi Marja we do whole cerebellum white matter and gray matter, but things like lobules aren't released yet. cheers Bruce On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote: Hi all, I am hoping to find some cerebellar volumes, but I don't know how to get them. I already did recon -all on all my subjects, but I cannot find any of these numbers in the .stats files. Am I just missing them, or does the recon all not do any cerebellar stuff? Best, Marja _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.
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Hi Bruce,
No, I expect cerebellar volume to vary with diagnosis, but I want to account for the head size differences. This seemed to me the way to do that, but of course I am not an expert.
Best,
Marja
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:23 PM, Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
if you expect cerebellar volume to vary in an uninteresting way with head size (which I think you probably do)
On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote:
Ok Thanks! Just to be sure, the eTIV would also make the cerebellar numbers
more informative right?
Best,
Marja
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:14 PM, Bruce Fischl < fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote: Hi Marja
yes, you can just use those volumes, and no, including it as a regressor isn't the same as dividing by eTIV (although you can do that instead). cheers Bruce On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote: Ok thanks Bruce. If I want to use these cerebellar white matter volumes, I assume I also need to use the eTIV as regressor right? (just like for the cerebral volumes? And maybe a stupid question, but can I use the eTIV as regressor by just dividing the structure volume by the eTIV? Best, Marja On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote: Hi Marja we do whole cerebellum white matter and gray matter, but things like lobules aren't released yet. cheers Bruce On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote: Hi all, I am hoping to find some cerebellar volumes, but I don't know how to get them. I already did recon -all on all my subjects, but I cannot find any of these numbers in the .stats files. Am I just missing them, or does the recon all not do any cerebellar stuff? Best, Marja _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.
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yes, but you would expect uninteresting variance with head/intracranial vault size, which is why you would include it as a regressor
On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote:
Hi Bruce,
No, I expect cerebellar volume to vary with diagnosis, but I want to account for the head size differences. This seemed to me the way to do that, but of course I am not an expert.
Best,
Marja
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:23 PM, Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote: if you expect cerebellar volume to vary in an uninteresting way with head size (which I think you probably do)
On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote: Ok Thanks! Just to be sure, the eTIV would also make the cerebellar numbers more informative right? Best, Marja On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:14 PM, Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote: Hi Marja yes, you can just use those volumes, and no, including it as a regressor isn't the same as dividing by eTIV (although you can do that instead). cheers Bruce On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote: Ok thanks Bruce. If I want to use these cerebellar white matter volumes, I assume I also need to use the eTIV as regressor right? (just like for the cerebral volumes? And maybe a stupid question, but can I use the eTIV as regressor by just dividing the structure volume by the eTIV? Best, Marja On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote: Hi Marja we do whole cerebellum white matter and gray matter, but things like lobules aren't released yet. cheers Bruce On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote: Hi all, I am hoping to find some cerebellar volumes, but I don't know how to get them. I already did recon -all on all my subjects, but I cannot find any of these numbers in the .stats files. Am I just missing them, or does the recon all not do any cerebellar stuff? Best, Marja _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail. _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.
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Hello,
This paper is very relevant to this issue:
Sanfilipo MP, Benedict RH, Zivadinov R, Bakshi R (2004) Correction for intracranial volume in analysis of whole brain atrophy in multiple sclerosis: the proportion vs. residual method. Neuroimage 22:1732–1743.
Anthony
On 6/10/16 9:34 AM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
yes, but you would expect uninteresting variance with head/intracranial vault size, which is why you would include it as a regressor
On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote:
Hi Bruce,
No, I expect cerebellar volume to vary with diagnosis, but I want to account for the head size differences. This seemed to me the way to do that, but of course I am not an expert.
Best,
Marja
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:23 PM, Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote: if you expect cerebellar volume to vary in an uninteresting way with head size (which I think you probably do)
On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote: Ok Thanks! Just to be sure, the eTIV would also make the cerebellar numbers more informative right? Best, Marja On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:14 PM, Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote: Hi Marja yes, you can just use those volumes, and no, including it as a regressor isn't the same as dividing by eTIV (although you can do that instead). cheers Bruce On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote: Ok thanks Bruce. If I want to use these cerebellar white matter volumes, I assume I also need to use the eTIV as regressor right? (just like for the cerebral volumes? And maybe a stupid question, but can I use the eTIV as regressor by just dividing the structure volume by the eTIV? Best, Marja On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote: Hi Marja we do whole cerebellum white matter and gray matter, but things like lobules aren't released yet. cheers Bruce On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote: Hi all, I am hoping to find some cerebellar volumes, but I don't know how to get them. I already did recon -all on all my subjects, but I cannot find any of these numbers in the .stats files. Am I just missing them, or does the recon all not do any cerebellar stuff? Best, Marja _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduhttps://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
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Thanks!
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Anthony Dick adick@fiu.edu wrote:
Hello,
This paper is very relevant to this issue:
Sanfilipo MP, Benedict RH, Zivadinov R, Bakshi R (2004) Correction for intracranial volume in analysis of whole brain atrophy in multiple sclerosis: the proportion vs. residual method. Neuroimage 22:1732–1743. Anthony
On 6/10/16 9:34 AM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
yes, but you would expect uninteresting variance with head/intracranial vault size, which is why you would include it as a regressor
On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote:
Hi Bruce,
No, I expect cerebellar volume to vary with diagnosis, but I want to account for the head size differences. This seemed to me the way to do that, but of course I am not an expert.
Best,
Marja
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:23 PM, Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote: if you expect cerebellar volume to vary in an uninteresting way with head size (which I think you probably do)
On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote: Ok Thanks! Just to be sure, the eTIV would also make the cerebellar numbers more informative right? Best, Marja On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:14 PM, Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote: Hi Marja yes, you can just use those volumes, and no, including it as a regressor isn't the same as dividing by eTIV (although you can do that instead). cheers Bruce On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote: Ok thanks Bruce. If I want to use these cerebellar white matter volumes, I assume I also need to use the eTIV as regressor right? (just like for the cerebral volumes? And maybe a stupid question, but can I use the eTIV as regressor by just dividing the structure volume by the eTIV? Best, Marja On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote: Hi Marja
we do whole cerebellum white matter and gray matter, but things like lobules aren't released yet. cheers Bruce On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Marja Caverlé wrote: Hi all, I am hoping to find some cerebellar volumes, but I don't know how to get them. I already did recon -all on all my subjects, but I cannot find any of these numbers in the .stats files. Am I just missing them, or does the recon all not do any cerebellar stuff? Best, Marja _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail. _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.
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