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Hello FreeSurfer experts,
I'm planning to run QDEC on Schizophrenia and controls. To do that I ran recon-all for few subjects in 2 different systems. Both systems have ubuntu 16.04 OS but different freesurfer versions. One is using FS version6 and other is FS version5.3.
Just for confirmation, I ran recon-all for the same subjects in 2 above said systems. Now both yield different values for the area. Here I have tabulated the values:
fsid Left-Lateral-Ventricle Left-Inf-Lat-Vent Left-Cerebellum-White-Matter Left-Cerebellum-Cortex Left-Thalamus-Proper Left-Caudate Left-Putamen Left-Pallidum 3rd-Ventricle 4th-Ventricle Brain-Stem Left-Hippocampus Left-Amygdala CSF Left-Accumbens-area Left-VentralDC Left-choroid-plexus Right-Lateral-Ventricle Right-Inf-Lat-Vent Right-Cerebellum-White-Matter Right-Cerebellum-Cortex Right-Thalamus-Proper Right-Caudate Right-Putamen Right-Pallidum Right-Hippocampus Right-Amygdala Right-Accumbens-area Right-VentralDC Right-choroid-plexus WM-hypointensities Optic-Chiasm CC_Posterior CC_Mid_Posterior CC_Central CC_Mid_Anterior CC_Anterior INSP015 16157.6 1227.3 11526.1 50572.8 6893 3228.3 5076.3 1927.7 2698.1 2577.8 17706.7 3525.3 1594.6 1164.3 538 4063.9 889.6 10616.9 1179.4 10638.1 50615.7 7252.9 3612.1 5719.7 1788.7 3852.7 1980.1 504.5 3762.4 748.8 728.9 194.4 854.8 393.8 393.9 425.8 1042.1 INSP015 16157.6 1227.3 11526.1 50572.8 6893 3228.3 5076.3 1927.7 2698.1 2577.8 17706.7 3525.3 1594.6 1164.3 538 4063.9 889.6 10616.9 1179.4 10638.1 50615.7 7252.9 3612.1 5719.7 1788.7 3852.7 1980.1 504.5 3762.4 748.8 728.9 194.4 854.8 393.8 393.9 425.8 1042.1
INSP019 7059.6 296 10820.8 42288.3 6177.2 2785.3 4573.8 1793.4 1283.5 1819.9 18958.5 3546.9 1535.8 1212.9 471.2 3741.7 583.6 7378.3 249.5 10200.6 42803.5 6173.9 3078.5 4617.6 1861.3 3638 1599.3 473.7 3532.6 627.1 591.4 270.3 897.7 443.6 497.5 460.7 798.9 INSP019 6962.9 288.8 11995 44004.4 6471.6 2883.8 4653 1888.6 1285.7 1706.1 18983.8 3619.9 1515.5 1117 493.8 3790.8 620.7 7446.8 273.6 10674.7 42678.1 6220.8 3109.2 4498.1 1943 3540.7 1658.3 499.8 3656.3 652 735.6 189.4 863.6 470.6 434.4 502.6 749.1
IYBA009 10661.7 644 16029.1 61364.8 7534.2 4416.4 5562.8 2279.9 1335.2 1775.6 24381.2 3787.8 1666.3 970.4 624.4 4286.9 709.1 9079.2 803.7 15172.2 59565.1 6989.7 4334.1 5550.7 2267.8 3928.2 1743.1 582.4 4465.2 676.6 728 195.6 667.6 426.8 363.9 362.4 929.1 IYBA009 10730.6 722.5 16662.8 60503.6 7686.1 4328.3 5430.1 2256.9 1365 1720.2 24139.9 3749.1 1635.9 995.6 639.8 4374 573.9 8963.9 795.2 15817.6 60176.1 7044.7 4251.9 5423.8 2241.1 3715.8 1749.2 600.2 4418.1 623.8 953.8 155 664.6 444.3 401.5 370.4 924.9
The above variation is because of different versions or each time freesurfer yields different values? Could you please educate me more on this. Because if the freesurfer version is the issue then I need to run all analysis in one system which will take a lot of time.
Thanks & regards Vittal
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On June 25, 2019 at 1:22 PM vittal korann vittalkorann@gmail.com wrote:
External Email - Use CautionHello FreeSurfer experts,
I'm planning to run QDEC on Schizophrenia and controls. To do that I ran recon-all for few subjects in 2 different systems. Both systems have ubuntu 16.04 OS but different freesurfer versions. One is using FS version6 and other is FS version5.3.
Just for confirmation, I ran recon-all for the same subjects in 2 above said systems. Now both yield different values for the area. Here I have tabulated the values:
fsid Left-Lateral-Ventricle Left-Inf-Lat-Vent Left-Cerebellum-White-Matter Left-Cerebellum-Cortex Left-Thalamus-Proper Left-Caudate Left-Putamen Left-Pallidum 3rd-Ventricle 4th-Ventricle Brain-Stem Left-Hippocampus Left-Amygdala CSF Left-Accumbens-area Left-VentralDC Left-choroid-plexus Right-Lateral-Ventricle Right-Inf-Lat-Vent Right-Cerebellum-White-Matter Right-Cerebellum-Cortex Right-Thalamus-Proper Right-Caudate Right-Putamen Right-Pallidum Right-Hippocampus Right-Amygdala Right-Accumbens-area Right-VentralDC Right-choroid-plexus WM-hypointensities Optic-Chiasm CC_Posterior CC_Mid_Posterior CC_Central CC_Mid_Anterior CC_Anterior INSP015 16157.6 1227.3 11526.1 50572.8 6893 3228.3 5076.3 1927.7 2698.1 2577.8 17706.7 3525.3 1594.6 1164.3 538 4063.9 889.6 10616.9 1179.4 10638.1 50615.7 7252.9 3612.1 5719.7 1788.7 3852.7 1980.1 504.5 3762.4 748.8 728.9 194.4 854.8 393.8 393.9 425.8 1042.1 INSP015 16157.6 1227.3 11526.1 50572.8 6893 3228.3 5076.3 1927.7 2698.1 2577.8 17706.7 3525.3 1594.6 1164.3 538 4063.9 889.6 10616.9 1179.4 10638.1 50615.7 7252.9 3612.1 5719.7 1788.7 3852.7 1980.1 504.5 3762.4 748.8 728.9 194.4 854.8 393.8 393.9 425.8 1042.1
INSP019 7059.6 296 10820.8 42288.3 6177.2 2785.3 4573.8 1793.4 1283.5 1819.9 18958.5 3546.9 1535.8 1212.9 471.2 3741.7 583.6 7378.3 249.5 10200.6 42803.5 6173.9 3078.5 4617.6 1861.3 3638 1599.3 473.7 3532.6 627.1 591.4 270.3 897.7 443.6 497.5 460.7 798.9 INSP019 6962.9 288.8 11995 44004.4 6471.6 2883.8 4653 1888.6 1285.7 1706.1 18983.8 3619.9 1515.5 1117 493.8 3790.8 620.7 7446.8 273.6 10674.7 42678.1 6220.8 3109.2 4498.1 1943 3540.7 1658.3 499.8 3656.3 652 735.6 189.4 863.6 470.6 434.4 502.6 749.1
IYBA009 10661.7 644 16029.1 61364.8 7534.2 4416.4 5562.8 2279.9 1335.2 1775.6 24381.2 3787.8 1666.3 970.4 624.4 4286.9 709.1 9079.2 803.7 15172.2 59565.1 6989.7 4334.1 5550.7 2267.8 3928.2 1743.1 582.4 4465.2 676.6 728 195.6 667.6 426.8 363.9 362.4 929.1 IYBA009 10730.6 722.5 16662.8 60503.6 7686.1 4328.3 5430.1 2256.9 1365 1720.2 24139.9 3749.1 1635.9 995.6 639.8 4374 573.9 8963.9 795.2 15817.6 60176.1 7044.7 4251.9 5423.8 2241.1 3715.8 1749.2 600.2 4418.1 623.8 953.8 155 664.6 444.3 401.5 370.4 924.9
The above variation is because of different versions or each time freesurfer yields different values? Could you please educate me more on this. Because if the freesurfer version is the issue then I need to run all analysis in one system which will take a lot of time.
Thanks & regards Vittal _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
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