Dear Freesurfers
I was testing a Cluster-on demand, pay-per-hour-used service US based and it seems pretty good. I ran 100 recon-all in 33 hours!!!
The cost of one hour of CPU is USD 0.77
The quote I received is a package of 200.000 hours / month with an hour priced as USD 0.25 cents
This figure represents 5500 Freesurfer recon-all per month.
If many people in the list are interested in sharing the expenses I think it would be a quick way to process tons of brains.
The info I received is that this cluster is based in Florida and have 300 cpus
Hope this helps,
PPJ
You might consider applying for a (free) Teragrid account with which you can relatively easily obtain 30 thousand CPU hours in a Development Allocation. We're using a few allocations for neuroimaging analysis workflows including FreeSurfer. Just to understand, would they have charged you 33*100*0.75 ($2475) dollars for this?
See: http://www.teragrid.org/userinfo/getting_started.php
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Pedro Paulo Oliveira Jr ppj@netfilter.com.br wrote:
Dear Freesurfers
I was testing a Cluster-on demand, pay-per-hour-used service US based and it seems pretty good. I ran 100 recon-all in 33 hours!!!
The cost of one hour of CPU is USD 0.77
The quote I received is a package of 200.000 hours / month with an hour priced as USD 0.25 cents
This figure represents 5500 Freesurfer recon-all per month.
If many people in the list are interested in sharing the expenses I think it would be a quick way to process tons of brains.
The info I received is that this cluster is based in Florida and have 300 cpus
Hope this helps,
PPJ
Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
Yes. That was the value. But it was waived because I requested a trial.
-----Original Message----- From: uhasson@gmail.com [mailto:uhasson@gmail.com] On Behalf Of U. Hasson Sent: quarta-feira, 26 de março de 2008 13:08 To: Pedro Paulo Oliveira Jr Cc: Freesurfer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Cluster on Demand
You might consider applying for a (free) Teragrid account with which you can relatively easily obtain 30 thousand CPU hours in a Development Allocation. We're using a few allocations for neuroimaging analysis workflows including FreeSurfer. Just to understand, would they have charged you 33*100*0.75 ($2475) dollars for this?
See: http://www.teragrid.org/userinfo/getting_started.php
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Pedro Paulo Oliveira Jr ppj@netfilter.com.br wrote:
Dear Freesurfers
I was testing a Cluster-on demand, pay-per-hour-used service US based and
it
seems pretty good. I ran 100 recon-all in 33 hours!!!
The cost of one hour of CPU is USD 0.77
The quote I received is a package of 200.000 hours / month with an hour priced as USD 0.25 cents
This figure represents 5500 Freesurfer recon-all per month.
If many people in the list are interested in sharing the expenses I think
it
would be a quick way to process tons of brains.
The info I received is that this cluster is based in Florida and have 300 cpus
Hope this helps,
PPJ
Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
Hi,
I entered Teragrid web and I saw this info:
" To qualify for an award, the principal investigator (PI) must be a researcher or educator at a U.S. academic or non-profit research institution. A qualified advisor may apply for an allocation for his or her class, but a high school, undergraduate or graduate student may not be a PI. A postdoctoral researcher can also be a PI. (After receiving an award, PIs can request that students be granted accounts to use the PIs allocation.)
In general, TeraGrids follow the guidelines outlined in the current NSF Grant Proposal Guide. However, investigators with support from any funding source, not just NSF, are encouraged to apply. If your institution is not a university or a 2- or 4-year college, special rules may apply. Contact help@teragrid.org for details."
Since I'm outside US I believe I'm not elegible. Is that right?
Tks
PPJ
-----Original Message----- From: uhasson@gmail.com [mailto:uhasson@gmail.com] On Behalf Of U. Hasson Sent: quarta-feira, 26 de março de 2008 13:08 To: Pedro Paulo Oliveira Jr Cc: Freesurfer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Cluster on Demand
You might consider applying for a (free) Teragrid account with which you can relatively easily obtain 30 thousand CPU hours in a Development Allocation. We're using a few allocations for neuroimaging analysis workflows including FreeSurfer. Just to understand, would they have charged you 33*100*0.75 ($2475) dollars for this?
See: http://www.teragrid.org/userinfo/getting_started.php
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Pedro Paulo Oliveira Jr ppj@netfilter.com.br wrote:
Dear Freesurfers
I was testing a Cluster-on demand, pay-per-hour-used service US based and
it
seems pretty good. I ran 100 recon-all in 33 hours!!!
The cost of one hour of CPU is USD 0.77
The quote I received is a package of 200.000 hours / month with an hour priced as USD 0.25 cents
This figure represents 5500 Freesurfer recon-all per month.
If many people in the list are interested in sharing the expenses I think
it
would be a quick way to process tons of brains.
The info I received is that this cluster is based in Florida and have 300 cpus
Hope this helps,
PPJ
Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
Pedro,
That's right. I should have realized that from the name / email address.
However, the good news is that the open science grid (OSG) doesn't have this limitation. http://www.opensciencegrid.org/. They do have foreign users. The principle there is that they expect users to share their own resources or otherwise contribute to the enterprise if sharing local resources is not an option.
Uri
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Pedro Paulo Oliveira Jr ppj@netfilter.com.br wrote:
Hi,
I entered Teragrid web and I saw this info:
" To qualify for an award, the principal investigator (PI) must be a researcher or educator at a U.S. academic or non-profit research institution. A qualified advisor may apply for an allocation for his or her class, but a high school, undergraduate or graduate student may not be a PI. A postdoctoral researcher can also be a PI. (After receiving an award, PIs can request that students be granted accounts to use the PI's allocation.)
In general, TeraGrids follow the guidelines outlined in the current NSF Grant Proposal Guide. However, investigators with support from any funding source, not just NSF, are encouraged to apply. If your institution is not a university or a 2- or 4-year college, special rules may apply. Contact help@teragrid.org for details."
Since I'm outside US I believe I'm not elegible. Is that right?
Tks
PPJ
-----Original Message----- From: uhasson@gmail.com [mailto:uhasson@gmail.com] On Behalf Of U. Hasson Sent: quarta-feira, 26 de março de 2008 13:08 To: Pedro Paulo Oliveira Jr Cc: Freesurfer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Cluster on Demand
You might consider applying for a (free) Teragrid account with which you can relatively easily obtain 30 thousand CPU hours in a Development Allocation. We're using a few allocations for neuroimaging analysis workflows including FreeSurfer. Just to understand, would they have charged you 33*100*0.75 ($2475) dollars for this?
See: http://www.teragrid.org/userinfo/getting_started.php
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Pedro Paulo Oliveira Jr ppj@netfilter.com.br wrote:
Dear Freesurfers
I was testing a Cluster-on demand, pay-per-hour-used service US based and
it
seems pretty good. I ran 100 recon-all in 33 hours!!!
The cost of one hour of CPU is USD 0.77
The quote I received is a package of 200.000 hours / month with an hour priced as USD 0.25 cents
This figure represents 5500 Freesurfer recon-all per month.
If many people in the list are interested in sharing the expenses I think
it
would be a quick way to process tons of brains.
The info I received is that this cluster is based in Florida and have 300 cpus
Hope this helps,
PPJ
Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
Hi,
That's good.
Quotes from the site below. Maybe creating a VO for FreeSurfer users is an idea.
Best Regards,
PPJ
""I want to use OSG resources." OSG does not currently support individual researchers. Rather, users of the OSG are required to band together into Virtual Organizations (VOs). The VO-based security infrastructure of OSG is probably the most important reason for this policy, although by no means the only. OSG operates much as a "wholesaler" network, and VOs are expected to provide the "retailer" functions to their users, e.g., user support, application debugging, and so on.
Therefore, to access OSG resources you must join a VO. OSG offers three options:
If you are an individual or small group wanting to use the OSG for your independent research, you may join OSG’s general-purpose VO named, confusingly(!), OSG. Send email to Goc at opensciencegrid dot org requesting admission to the “OSG” VO. Join an existing member VO (See the list of current OSG VOs ) whose scope includes the applications you want to run (e.g., OSGEDU – the education VO for students and teachers). To join an existing VO you need to contact its Support Center. Check the List of Support Centers and problem reporting addresses to find your Support Center. If you have questions, ask Goc at opensciencegrid dot org. Form a new VO for your research community and register it with OSG. This process is described below. Once you're in a VO, you'll need to run your application. Some VOs provide an interface for you (you'll need to check with your VO support center and your application administrator in that case). For information on running jobs, navigate from the Technical documentation hub. "
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:22:56 -0500, "U. Hasson" zvalim@gmail.com wrote:
Pedro,
That's right. I should have realized that from the name / email address.
However, the good news is that the open science grid (OSG) doesn't have this limitation. http://www.opensciencegrid.org/. They do have foreign users. The principle there is that they expect users to share their own resources or otherwise contribute to the enterprise if sharing local resources is not an option.
Uri
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Pedro Paulo Oliveira Jr ppj@netfilter.com.br wrote:
Hi,
I entered Teragrid web and I saw this info:
" To qualify for an award, the principal investigator (PI) must be a researcher or educator at a U.S. academic or non-profit research institution. A qualified advisor may apply for an allocation for his or
her
class, but a high school, undergraduate or graduate student may not be
a PI.
A postdoctoral researcher can also be a PI. (After receiving an award,
PIs
can request that students be granted accounts to use the PI's
allocation.)
In general, TeraGrids follow the guidelines outlined in the current NSF Grant Proposal Guide. However, investigators with support from any
funding
source, not just NSF, are encouraged to apply. If your institution is
not a
university or a 2- or 4-year college, special rules may apply. Contact help@teragrid.org for details."
Since I'm outside US I believe I'm not elegible. Is that right?
Tks
PPJ
-----Original Message----- From: uhasson@gmail.com [mailto:uhasson@gmail.com] On Behalf Of U.
Hasson
Sent: quarta-feira, 26 de março de 2008 13:08 To: Pedro Paulo Oliveira Jr Cc: Freesurfer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Cluster on Demand
You might consider applying for a (free) Teragrid account with which you can relatively easily obtain 30 thousand CPU hours in a Development Allocation. We're using a few allocations for neuroimaging analysis workflows including FreeSurfer. Just to understand, would they have charged you 33*100*0.75 ($2475) dollars for this?
See: http://www.teragrid.org/userinfo/getting_started.php
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Pedro Paulo Oliveira Jr ppj@netfilter.com.br wrote:
Dear Freesurfers
I was testing a Cluster-on demand, pay-per-hour-used service US based
and
it
seems pretty good. I ran 100 recon-all in 33 hours!!!
The cost of one hour of CPU is USD 0.77
The quote I received is a package of 200.000 hours / month with an
hour
priced as USD 0.25 cents
This figure represents 5500 Freesurfer recon-all per month.
If many people in the list are interested in sharing the expenses I
think
it
would be a quick way to process tons of brains.
The info I received is that this cluster is based in Florida and have
300
cpus
Hope this helps,
PPJ
Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
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