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Hi,
I have been getting this error with one of my subjects Recon-all. I am attaching the recon-all log file. any help would be appreciated!
Meena
This is something that is being triggered by use -3T. Is there a reason you are using that option?
On 11/19/19 5:15 PM, Meena M. Makary wrote:
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Hi,
I have been getting this error with one of my subjects Recon-all. I am attaching the recon-all log file. any help would be appreciated!
Meena
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Thank you, Douglas, for your fast reply. I have used -3T option for all my dataset (>80 subject so far) and it worked well for all except for this subject. Do you generally discourage using this option? I thought it does some normalization/denoising for 3T scanners. I haven’t had a chance to look deeper into it. Please let me know what you think about it?
Thank you! Meena
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 5:51 PM Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. < DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
This is something that is being triggered by use -3T. Is there a reason you are using that option?
On 11/19/19 5:15 PM, Meena M. Makary wrote:
External Email - Use CautionHi,
I have been getting this error with one of my subjects Recon-all. I am attaching the recon-all log file. any help would be appreciated!
Meena
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I don't generally discourage it, but I don't think many people use it, and so it might not be maintained that well. But the error you are seeing appears to be that the mritotal program cannot be found (not a computational problem or problem with your data). But it is strange that you could run it with your other subjects; I would have thought that it would have failed for all of them. Can you re-run one of your subjects that failed (put it in a different subject name folder). You don't need to run the whole thing, just until it fails or subject/mri/transforms/talairach.xfm has been created.
Also, I looked at your data and noticed that the subject's head is at a rather extreme angle relative to the bore. Is this typical for your subject set? It could be causing a problem with the program doing the registration.
On 11/21/19 1:11 PM, Meena M. Makary wrote:
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Thank you, Douglas, for your fast reply. I have used -3T option for all my dataset (>80 subject so far) and it worked well for all except for this subject. Do you generally discourage using this option? I thought it does some normalization/denoising for 3T scanners. I haven’t had a chance to look deeper into it. Please let me know what you think about it?
Thank you! Meena
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 5:51 PM Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
This is something that is being triggered by use -3T. Is there a reason you are using that option? On 11/19/19 5:15 PM, Meena M. Makary wrote: > > External Email - Use Caution > > Hi, > > I have been getting this error with one of my subjects Recon-all. I am > attaching the recon-all log file. any help would be appreciated! > > Meena > > -- > — > *Meena M. Makary, Ph.D.* > Assistant Professor|Cairo University <http://bmes.cufe.edu.eg/> > Postdoctoral Fellow|Radiology, Harvard Medical School > <https://connects.catalyst.harvard.edu/Profiles/display/Person/176550> > Postdoctoral Fellow| Athinoula A. Martinos Center, MGH > <https://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/user/4550386> > Career Development and Mentoring Manager | OHBM Student and Postdoc > SIG <https://www.humanbrainmapping.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3449> > > _______________________________________________ > Freesurfer mailing list > Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> > https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer-- — *Meena M. Makary, Ph.D.* Assistant Professor|Cairo University http://bmes.cufe.edu.eg/ Postdoctoral Fellow|Radiology, Harvard Medical School https://connects.catalyst.harvard.edu/Profiles/display/Person/176550 Postdoctoral Fellow| Athinoula A. Martinos Center, MGH https://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/user/4550386 Career Development and Mentoring Manager | OHBM Student and Postdoc SIG https://www.humanbrainmapping.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3449
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Thank you, Doug! So here's what I've tried now.
I want to confirm first that this is the only subject that is failed so far. I re-ran it in a different subject folder name and it failed too.
I ran it again without the -3T option and failed as well with the same error (attached the log file "named with _no3T").
I am attaching also a log file of one other random subject who ran successfully with the 3T option.
This is a part of patient population that was acquired at Bay 6, and this subject (that failed) has a huge aliasing effect. I corrected it by centering the image. we have few subjects who has this effect but were not as big as this subject.
Thank you so much for taking the time to look into this.
Best, Meena
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 1:56 PM Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. < DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
I don't generally discourage it, but I don't think many people use it, and so it might not be maintained that well. But the error you are seeing appears to be that the mritotal program cannot be found (not a computational problem or problem with your data). But it is strange that you could run it with your other subjects; I would have thought that it would have failed for all of them. Can you re-run one of your subjects that failed (put it in a different subject name folder). You don't need to run the whole thing, just until it fails or subject/mri/transforms/talairach.xfm has been created.
Also, I looked at your data and noticed that the subject's head is at a rather extreme angle relative to the bore. Is this typical for your subject set? It could be causing a problem with the program doing the registration.
On 11/21/19 1:11 PM, Meena M. Makary wrote:
External Email - Use CautionThank you, Douglas, for your fast reply. I have used -3T option for all my dataset (>80 subject so far) and it worked well for all except for this subject. Do you generally discourage using this option? I thought it does some normalization/denoising for 3T scanners. I haven’t had a chance to look deeper into it. Please let me know what you think about it?
Thank you! Meena
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 5:51 PM Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
This is something that is being triggered by use -3T. Is there a reason you are using that option? On 11/19/19 5:15 PM, Meena M. Makary wrote: > > External Email - Use Caution > > Hi, > > I have been getting this error with one of my subjects Recon-all. I am > attaching the recon-all log file. any help would be appreciated! > > Meena > > -- > — > *Meena M. Makary, Ph.D.* > Assistant Professor|Cairo University <http://bmes.cufe.edu.eg/> > Postdoctoral Fellow|Radiology, Harvard Medical School > <https://connects.catalyst.harvard.edu/Profiles/display/Person/176550%3E
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I am following up on this. Thank you!
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:33 PM Meena M. Makary meena.magharious@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you, Doug! So here's what I've tried now.
I want to confirm first that this is the only subject that is failed so far. I re-ran it in a different subject folder name and it failed too.
I ran it again without the -3T option and failed as well with the same error (attached the log file "named with _no3T").
This is a part of patient population that was acquired at Bay 6, and this subject (that failed) has a huge aliasing effect. I corrected it by centering the image. we have few subjects who has this effect but were not as big as this subject.
Thank you so much for taking the time to look into this.
Best, Meena
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 1:56 PM Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. < DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
I don't generally discourage it, but I don't think many people use it, and so it might not be maintained that well. But the error you are seeing appears to be that the mritotal program cannot be found (not a computational problem or problem with your data). But it is strange that you could run it with your other subjects; I would have thought that it would have failed for all of them. Can you re-run one of your subjects that failed (put it in a different subject name folder). You don't need to run the whole thing, just until it fails or subject/mri/transforms/talairach.xfm has been created.
Also, I looked at your data and noticed that the subject's head is at a rather extreme angle relative to the bore. Is this typical for your subject set? It could be causing a problem with the program doing the registration.
On 11/21/19 1:11 PM, Meena M. Makary wrote:
External Email - Use CautionThank you, Douglas, for your fast reply. I have used -3T option for all my dataset (>80 subject so far) and it worked well for all except for this subject. Do you generally discourage using this option? I thought it does some normalization/denoising for 3T scanners. I haven’t had a chance to look deeper into it. Please let me know what you think about it?
Thank you! Meena
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 5:51 PM Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
This is something that is being triggered by use -3T. Is there a reason you are using that option? On 11/19/19 5:15 PM, Meena M. Makary wrote: > > External Email - Use Caution > > Hi, > > I have been getting this error with one of my subjects Recon-all. I am > attaching the recon-all log file. any help would be appreciated! > > Meena > > -- > — > *Meena M. Makary, Ph.D.* > Assistant Professor|Cairo University <http://bmes.cufe.edu.eg/> > Postdoctoral Fellow|Radiology, Harvard Medical School > <https://connects.catalyst.harvard.edu/Profiles/display/Person/176550%3E
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Hi Meena,
From the recon-all log, it appears that you might actually be using an out-dated MNI distribution (1.14) instead of the one that ships with freesurfer (1.15). When you source freesurfer 6.0, the following mni path should be displayed:
MNI_DIR /autofs/cluster/freesurfer/centos6_x86_64/stable6_0_0/mni
Are you seeing something different? If so, this might be because you have the MNI_DIR, MNI_DATAPATH, or MNI_PERL5LIB env variables set to alternative mni installs.
best Andrew
________________________________________ From: freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu freesurfer-bounces@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu on behalf of Meena M. Makary meena.magharious@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 2:33 PM To: Freesurfer support list Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Recon-all Error
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Thank you, Doug! So here's what I've tried now.
I want to confirm first that this is the only subject that is failed so far. I re-ran it in a different subject folder name and it failed too.
I ran it again without the -3T option and failed as well with the same error (attached the log file "named with _no3T").
I am attaching also a log file of one other random subject who ran successfully with the 3T option.
This is a part of patient population that was acquired at Bay 6, and this subject (that failed) has a huge aliasing effect. I corrected it by centering the image. we have few subjects who has this effect but were not as big as this subject.
Thank you so much for taking the time to look into this.
Best, Meena
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 1:56 PM Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edumailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
I don't generally discourage it, but I don't think many people use it, and so it might not be maintained that well. But the error you are seeing appears to be that the mritotal program cannot be found (not a computational problem or problem with your data). But it is strange that you could run it with your other subjects; I would have thought that it would have failed for all of them. Can you re-run one of your subjects that failed (put it in a different subject name folder). You don't need to run the whole thing, just until it fails or subject/mri/transforms/talairach.xfm has been created.
Also, I looked at your data and noticed that the subject's head is at a rather extreme angle relative to the bore. Is this typical for your subject set? It could be causing a problem with the program doing the registration.
On 11/21/19 1:11 PM, Meena M. Makary wrote:
External Email - Use CautionThank you, Douglas, for your fast reply. I have used -3T option for all my dataset (>80 subject so far) and it worked well for all except for this subject. Do you generally discourage using this option? I thought it does some normalization/denoising for 3T scanners. I haven’t had a chance to look deeper into it. Please let me know what you think about it?
Thank you! Meena
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 5:51 PM Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edumailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edumailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:
This is something that is being triggered by use -3T. Is there a reason you are using that option? On 11/19/19 5:15 PM, Meena M. Makary wrote: > > External Email - Use Caution > > Hi, > > I have been getting this error with one of my subjects Recon-all. I am > attaching the recon-all log file. any help would be appreciated! > > Meena > > -- > — > *Meena M. Makary, Ph.D.* > Assistant Professor|Cairo University <http://bmes.cufe.edu.eg/> > Postdoctoral Fellow|Radiology, Harvard Medical School > <https://connects.catalyst.harvard.edu/Profiles/display/Person/176550> > Postdoctoral Fellow| Athinoula A. Martinos Center, MGH > <https://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/user/4550386> > Career Development and Mentoring Manager | OHBM Student and Postdoc > SIG <https://www.humanbrainmapping.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3449> > > _______________________________________________ > Freesurfer mailing list > Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> > https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer-- — *Meena M. Makary, Ph.D.* Assistant Professor|Cairo University http://bmes.cufe.edu.eg/ Postdoctoral Fellow|Radiology, Harvard Medical School https://connects.catalyst.harvard.edu/Profiles/display/Person/176550 Postdoctoral Fellow| Athinoula A. Martinos Center, MGH https://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/user/4550386 Career Development and Mentoring Manager | OHBM Student and Postdoc SIG https://www.humanbrainmapping.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3449
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On November 21, 2019 at 7:56 PM "Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D." DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu wrote: [...] But the error you are seeing appears to be that the mritotal program cannot be found (not a computational problem or problem with your data). But it is strange that you could run it with your other subjects; I would have thought that it would have failed for all of them.
Just something I noticed: the relevant error message from the log seems to be:
Can't locate shellwords.pl in @INC ERROR: mritotal failed, see transforms/talairach.log
When I googled the first part about shellwords.pl, I found a reference to this message: https://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg50592.html
In it, it says:
"When there is an alignment failure using the talairach method freesurfer reverts to mni tools. The mni tools will error out with mritotal on more modern linux platforms because mritotal references shellwords.pl which no longer ships with perl (starting around 5.14)."
That could explain why it works for most subjects.
Tim
Can you re-run one of your subjects that failed (put it in a different subject name folder). You don't need to run the whole thing, just until it fails or subject/mri/transforms/talairach.xfm has been created.
Also, I looked at your data and noticed that the subject's head is at a rather extreme angle relative to the bore. Is this typical for your subject set? It could be causing a problem with the program doing the registration.
On 11/21/19 1:11 PM, Meena M. Makary wrote:
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Thank you, Douglas, for your fast reply. I have used -3T option for all my dataset (>80 subject so far) and it worked well for all except for this subject. Do you generally discourage using this option? I thought it does some normalization/denoising for 3T scanners. I haven’t had a chance to look deeper into it. Please let me know what you think about it?
Thank you! Meena
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 5:51 PM Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu mailto:DGREVE@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
This is something that is being triggered by use -3T. Is there a reason you are using that option? On 11/19/19 5:15 PM, Meena M. Makary wrote: > > External Email - Use Caution > > Hi, > > I have been getting this error with one of my subjects Recon-all. I am > attaching the recon-all log file. any help would be appreciated! > > Meena > > -- > — > *Meena M. Makary, Ph.D.* > Assistant Professor|Cairo University <http://bmes.cufe.edu.eg/> > Postdoctoral Fellow|Radiology, Harvard Medical School > <https://connects.catalyst.harvard.edu/Profiles/display/Person/176550> > Postdoctoral Fellow| Athinoula A. Martinos Center, MGH > <https://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/user/4550386> > Career Development and Mentoring Manager | OHBM Student and Postdoc > SIG <https://www.humanbrainmapping.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3449> > > _______________________________________________ > Freesurfer mailing list > Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> > https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer-- — *Meena M. Makary, Ph.D.* Assistant Professor|Cairo University http://bmes.cufe.edu.eg/ Postdoctoral Fellow|Radiology, Harvard Medical School https://connects.catalyst.harvard.edu/Profiles/display/Person/176550 Postdoctoral Fellow| Athinoula A. Martinos Center, MGH https://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/user/4550386 Career Development and Mentoring Manager | OHBM Student and Postdoc SIG https://www.humanbrainmapping.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3449
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