Dear Freesurfers, we recently processed a sample of adult patients and then we reran autorecon-2 and autorecon-3 after editing contol points, white matter and pial surface. We exported the asegstat table both pre and post editing, and we got different volumes for most of the subjects. How is that possible, given that the kind of editing we performed is not supposed to affect subcortical segmentation? Thanks a lot. Claudia
Hi Claudia
if you run autorecon2 you will rerun the aseg, which will use the control points to change the subcortical intensity normalization. If you don't want that to happen, you need to run -autorecon2-cp
cheers Bruce
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013, Claudia Dacquino wrote:
Dear Freesurfers,we recently processed a sample of adult patients and then we reran autorecon-2 and autorecon-3 after editing contol points, white matter and pial surface. We exported the asegstat table both pre and post editing, and we got different volumes for most of the subjects. How is that possible, given that the kind of editing we performed is not supposed to affect subcortical segmentation? Thanks a lot. Claudia
Thanks Bruce, but I'm sure I ran autorecon2-cp autorecon3:
recon-all -autorecon2-cp -autorecon3 -subjid.
However, is it ok to use aseg values post editing even if they look different from the pre editing ones?
Thanks a lot.
Claudia
2013/7/24 Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Hi Claudia
if you run autorecon2 you will rerun the aseg, which will use the control points to change the subcortical intensity normalization. If you don't want that to happen, you need to run -autorecon2-cp
cheers Bruce
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013, Claudia Dacquino wrote:
Dear Freesurfers,we recently processed a sample of adult patients and
then we reran autorecon-2 and
autorecon-3 after editing contol points, white matter and pial surface. We exported the asegstat table both pre and post editing, and we got different volumes for most of the subjects. How is that possible, given that the kind of editing we performed is not supposed to affect subcortical segmentation? Thanks a lot. Claudia
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I think it is, but I would visually inspect them. What FS version are you running? Earlier versions reran the aseg for autorecon2-cp, but 5.3 does not n Wed, 24 Jul 2013, Claudia Dacquino wrote:
Thanks Bruce,but I'm sure I ran autorecon2-cp autorecon3:
recon-all -autorecon2-cp -autorecon3 -subjid.
However, is it ok to use aseg values post editing even if they look different from the pre editing ones?
Thanks a lot.
Claudia
2013/7/24 Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Hi Claudia
if you run autorecon2 you will rerun the aseg, which will use the control points to change the subcortical intensity normalization. If you don't want that to happen, you need to run -autorecon2-cp cheers Bruce On Wed, 24 Jul 2013, Claudia Dacquino wrote: Dear Freesurfers,we recently processed a sample of adult patients and then we reran autorecon-2 and autorecon-3 after editing contol points, white matter and pial surface. We exported the asegstat table both pre and post editing, and we got different volumes for most of the subjects. How is that possible, given that the kind of editing we performed is not supposed to affect subcortical segmentation? Thanks a lot. ClaudiaThe information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.
Hi Bruce, I run FS 5.1. So for 5.1 version is it normal that post editing aseg values ar different from pre editing even using autorecon2-cp? Thanks again Claudia
2013/7/24 Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
I think it is, but I would visually inspect them. What FS version are you running? Earlier versions reran the aseg for autorecon2-cp, but 5.3 does not
n Wed, 24 Jul 2013, Claudia Dacquino wrote:
Thanks Bruce,but I'm sure I ran autorecon2-cp autorecon3:
recon-all -autorecon2-cp -autorecon3 -subjid.
However, is it ok to use aseg values post editing even if they look different from the pre editing ones?
Thanks a lot.
Claudia
2013/7/24 Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Hi Claudia
if you run autorecon2 you will rerun the aseg, which will use thecontrol points to change the subcortical intensity normalization. If you don't want that to happen, you need to run -autorecon2-cp
cheers Bruce On Wed, 24 Jul 2013, Claudia Dacquino wrote: Dear Freesurfers,we recently processed a sample of adultpatients and then we reran autorecon-2 and autorecon-3 after editing contol points, white matter and pial surface. We exported the asegstat table both pre and post editing, and we got different volumes for most of the subjects. How is that possible, given that the kind of editing we performed is not supposed to affect subcortical segmentation? Thanks a lot. Claudia
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I don't think so, but perhaps Nick can comment. Are you positive you didn't run -autorecon2? Actually, maybe the placement of the ribbon will change the partial volume estimates for some subcortical structures? I can't remember the current sequence of events. Nick or Doug: do you know?
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013, Claudia Dacquino wrote:
Hi Bruce,I run FS 5.1. So for 5.1 version is it normal that post editing aseg values ar different from pre editing even using autorecon2-cp? Thanks again Claudia
2013/7/24 Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu I think it is, but I would visually inspect them. What FS version are you running? Earlier versions reran the aseg for autorecon2-cp, but 5.3 does not n Wed, 24 Jul 2013, Claudia Dacquino wrote:
Thanks Bruce,but I'm sure I ran autorecon2-cp autorecon3: recon-all -autorecon2-cp -autorecon3 -subjid. However, is it ok to use aseg values post editing even if they look different from the pre editing ones? Thanks a lot. Claudia 2013/7/24 Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Hi Claudia if you run autorecon2 you will rerun the aseg, which will use the control points to change the subcortical intensity normalization. If you don't want that to happen, you need to run -autorecon2-cp cheers Bruce On Wed, 24 Jul 2013, Claudia Dacquino wrote: Dear Freesurfers,we recently processed a sample of adult patients and then we reran autorecon-2 and autorecon-3 after editing contol points, white matter and pial surface. We exported the asegstat table both pre and post editing, and we got different volumes for most of the subjects. How is that possible, given that the kind of editing we performed is not supposed to affect subcortical segmentation? Thanks a lot. Claudia The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.
I don't think it will change the PV, but I'm not sure
On 07/24/2013 03:40 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
I don't think so, but perhaps Nick can comment. Are you positive you didn't run -autorecon2? Actually, maybe the placement of the ribbon will change the partial volume estimates for some subcortical structures? I can't remember the current sequence of events. Nick or Doug: do you know?
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013, Claudia Dacquino wrote:
Hi Bruce,I run FS 5.1. So for 5.1 version is it normal that post editing aseg values ar different from pre editing even using autorecon2-cp? Thanks again Claudia
2013/7/24 Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu I think it is, but I would visually inspect them. What FS version are you running? Earlier versions reran the aseg for autorecon2-cp, but 5.3 does not n Wed, 24 Jul 2013, Claudia Dacquino wrote:
Thanks Bruce,but I'm sure I ran autorecon2-cp autorecon3: recon-all -autorecon2-cp -autorecon3 -subjid. However, is it ok to use aseg values post editing even if they look different from the pre editing ones? Thanks a lot. Claudia 2013/7/24 Bruce Fischl <fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Hi Claudia if you run autorecon2 you will rerun the aseg, which will use the control points to change the subcortical intensity normalization. If you don't want that to happen, you need to run -autorecon2-cp cheers Bruce On Wed, 24 Jul 2013, Claudia Dacquino wrote: Dear Freesurfers,we recently processed a sample of adult patients and then we reran autorecon-2 and autorecon-3 after editing contol points, white matter and pial surface. We exported the asegstat table both pre and post editing, and we got different volumes for most of the subjects. How is that possible, given that the kind of editing we performed is not supposed to affect subcortical segmentation? Thanks a lot. Claudia The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.
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