Hi Hugh, you can run mris_anatomical_stats passing it the sulc file as input. This will give you averages within aparc. I'm not sure what you mean by "measuring cortical folding". What measure would you accept? There's the sulcal depth and then there's curvature (?h.curv). There are two types of "normalization". One is intensity normalization which is a preprocessing step before the segmentation. "Normalization" is also refers to intersubject registration. Probably you mean the latter. doug
On 08/13/2012 09:56 PM, Hugh Pemberton wrote:
Hi Doug,
Thanks so much for getting back to my original question (have included below) and apologies if my question seems trivial but I'm a bit of a novice with freesurfer.. I've found the ?h.sulc file but how do I go about extracting the sulcal depth measurements? Is there a command like aparcsstats2table?
Also, is there a way of measuring cortical folding with freesurfer? And I've read about the noramlization step but am still not completely clear on it, is this part of the segmentation of white/gray surface and pial surface?
Thanks so much for your help, Best, Hugh
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The values are in the ?h.sulc file doug
On 8/12/12 10:12 PM, Hugh Pemberton wrote:
Hi,
How can I get sulcal depth measurements from Freesurfer?
Cheers, Hugh
Dear Freesurfers,
I've got twice the following error message while pre-smoothing images for qdec (recon-all -qcache):
Reading curvature file /home/alfredo/subjects/vbmRCCT/surf/rh.volume ERROR: number of vertices in /home/alfredo/subjects/vbmRCCT/surf/rh.volume does not match surface (128252,128150) ERROR: reading curvature file Linux tupi.neuroimg.hc.unicamp.br 2.6.35.14-100.fc14.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Oct 21 18:40:08 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
recon-all -s vbmRCCT exited with ERRORS at Fri Aug 10 16:06:59 BRT 2012
I am using a Linux-centos4_x86_64 and freesurfer version is 5.1 my SUBJECTS_DIR is /home/alfredo/subjects
Attached is the log.file
Thanks Alfredo
It means that your subject is out of synch. This usually happens when you've edited a subject and re-run recon-all, but the re-run did not get far enough either because it failed for some reason or you did not run it all the way through to the end. You can run
recon-all -s subject -make all
and it will update your subject and get it back in synch
doug
On 08/14/2012 01:22 PM, Alfredo Damasceno wrote:
Dear Freesurfers,
I've got twice the following error message while pre-smoothing images for qdec (recon-all -qcache):
Reading curvature file /home/alfredo/subjects/vbmRCCT/surf/rh.volume ERROR: number of vertices in /home/alfredo/subjects/vbmRCCT/surf/rh.volume does not match surface (128252,128150) ERROR: reading curvature file Linux tupi.neuroimg.hc.unicamp.br 2.6.35.14-100.fc14.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Oct 21 18:40:08 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
recon-all -s vbmRCCT exited with ERRORS at Fri Aug 10 16:06:59 BRT 2012
I am using a Linux-centos4_x86_64 and freesurfer version is 5.1 my SUBJECTS_DIR is /home/alfredo/subjects
Attached is the log.file
Thanks Alfredo
Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
After you ran -autorecon2-wm you skipped a couple of the autorecon3 steps (-pial, -surfvolume, -segstats).
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012, Douglas N Greve wrote:
It means that your subject is out of synch. This usually happens when you've edited a subject and re-run recon-all, but the re-run did not get far enough either because it failed for some reason or you did not run it all the way through to the end. You can run
recon-all -s subject -make all
and it will update your subject and get it back in synch
doug
On 08/14/2012 01:22 PM, Alfredo Damasceno wrote:
Dear Freesurfers,
I've got twice the following error message while pre-smoothing images for qdec (recon-all -qcache):
Reading curvature file /home/alfredo/subjects/vbmRCCT/surf/rh.volume ERROR: number of vertices in /home/alfredo/subjects/vbmRCCT/surf/rh.volume does not match surface (128252,128150) ERROR: reading curvature file Linux tupi.neuroimg.hc.unicamp.br 2.6.35.14-100.fc14.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Oct 21 18:40:08 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
recon-all -s vbmRCCT exited with ERRORS at Fri Aug 10 16:06:59 BRT 2012
I am using a Linux-centos4_x86_64 and freesurfer version is 5.1 my SUBJECTS_DIR is /home/alfredo/subjects
Attached is the log.file
Thanks Alfredo
Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
HI Doug,
I tried the mris_anatomical_stats and may well be doing it wrong but got this as the result:
hughp@naoshi-WS:~/freesurfer/subjects$ mris_anatomical_stats -a ABM/surf/lh.sulc -b ABM lh computing statistics for each annotation in ABM/surf/lh.sulc. reading volume /home/hughp/freesurfer/subjects/ABM/mri/wm.mgz... reading input surface /home/hughp/freesurfer/subjects/ABM/surf/lh.white... reading input pial surface /home/hughp/freesurfer/subjects/ABM/surf/lh.pial... reading input white surface /home/hughp/freesurfer/subjects/ABM/surf/lh.white... CTABfindAnnotation: ct was NULL No such file or directory Segmentation fault (core dumped)
Not sure how to rectify this, any ideas?
Many thanks again, Hugh
On 15 August 2012 01:42, Douglas N Greve greve@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
Hi Hugh, you can run mris_anatomical_stats passing it the sulc file as input. This will give you averages within aparc. I'm not sure what you mean by "measuring cortical folding". What measure would you accept? There's the sulcal depth and then there's curvature (?h.curv). There are two types of "normalization". One is intensity normalization which is a preprocessing step before the segmentation. "Normalization" is also refers to intersubject registration. Probably you mean the latter. doug
On 08/13/2012 09:56 PM, Hugh Pemberton wrote:
Hi Doug,
Thanks so much for getting back to my original question (have included below) and apologies if my question seems trivial but I'm a bit of a novice with freesurfer.. I've found the ?h.sulc file but how do I go about extracting the sulcal depth measurements? Is there a command like aparcsstats2table?
Also, is there a way of measuring cortical folding with freesurfer? And I've read about the noramlization step but am still not completely clear on it, is this part of the segmentation of white/gray surface and pial surface?
Thanks so much for your help, Best, Hugh
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The values are in the ?h.sulc file doug
On 8/12/12 10:12 PM, Hugh Pemberton wrote:
Hi,
How can I get sulcal depth measurements from Freesurfer?
Cheers, Hugh
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