Dear FreeSurfer team, we are running FreeSurfer on 1.5T cases. For a few of them we get error messages that I am attaching. Mostly the message error relates to excessive topological defect. Any suggestions you can give to us? Thank you, regards, Elisabetta
Hi Elisabetta
I don't think that's an error, just a warning. That said, a defect with 38K vertices is awfully big, almost 1/4 of the surface, which usually means something big is wrong (e.g. cerebellum or skull attached to the hemi). Can you look at the orig.nofix or the inflated.nofix and see what is wrong? If you upload one of the subjects I'll take a look
cheers Bruce
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, Elisabetta del Re wrote:
Dear FreeSurfer team,we are running FreeSurfer on 1.5T cases. For a few of them we get error messages that I am attaching. Mostly the message error relates to excessive topological defect. Any suggestions you can give to us? Thank you, regards, Elisabetta
-- Elisabetta C. del Re, Ph.D. Instructor, Department of Psychiatry Harvard Medical School phone 617 9675569 mail elisabetta_delre@hms.harvard.edu
Hi Bruce, thank you so much. I attach here T1 of 2 of the cases. Thank you again, regards, Elisabetta
On 11/4/15, Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
Hi Elisabetta
I don't think that's an error, just a warning. That said, a defect with 38K vertices is awfully big, almost 1/4 of the surface, which usually means
something big is wrong (e.g. cerebellum or skull attached to the hemi). Can
you look at the orig.nofix or the inflated.nofix and see what is wrong? If you upload one of the subjects I'll take a look
cheers Bruce
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, Elisabetta del Re wrote:
Dear FreeSurfer team,we are running FreeSurfer on 1.5T cases. For a few of them we get error messages that I am attaching. Mostly the message error relates to excessive topological defect. Any suggestions you can give to us? Thank you, regards, Elisabetta
-- Elisabetta C. del Re, Ph.D. Instructor, Department of Psychiatry Harvard Medical School phone 617 9675569 mail elisabetta_delre@hms.harvard.edu
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Hi Elisabetta
we would need the entire subject directory. Did you look at the surfaces I suggested?
cheers Bruce On Fri, 20 Nov 2015, Elisabetta del Re wrote:
Hi Bruce, thank you so much. I attach here T1 of 2 of the cases. Thank you again, regards, Elisabetta
On 11/4/15, Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
Hi Elisabetta
I don't think that's an error, just a warning. That said, a defect with 38K vertices is awfully big, almost 1/4 of the surface, which usually means
something big is wrong (e.g. cerebellum or skull attached to the hemi). Can
you look at the orig.nofix or the inflated.nofix and see what is wrong? If you upload one of the subjects I'll take a look
cheers Bruce
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, Elisabetta del Re wrote:
Dear FreeSurfer team,we are running FreeSurfer on 1.5T cases. For a few of them we get error messages that I am attaching. Mostly the message error relates to excessive topological defect. Any suggestions you can give to us? Thank you, regards, Elisabetta
-- Elisabetta C. del Re, Ph.D. Instructor, Department of Psychiatry Harvard Medical School phone 617 9675569 mail elisabetta_delre@hms.harvard.edu
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Hi Bruce, no, but do you mean by the entire subject directory? Thank you so much, regards, E.
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
Hi Elisabetta
we would need the entire subject directory. Did you look at the surfaces I suggested?
cheers Bruce On Fri, 20 Nov 2015, Elisabetta del Re wrote:
Hi Bruce, thank you so much. I attach here T1 of 2 of the cases. Thank you again, regards, Elisabetta
On 11/4/15, Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
Hi Elisabetta
I don't think that's an error, just a warning. That said, a defect with 38K vertices is awfully big, almost 1/4 of the surface, which usually
means
something big is wrong (e.g. cerebellum or skull attached to the hemi).
Can
you look at the orig.nofix or the inflated.nofix and see what is wrong?
If
you upload one of the subjects I'll take a look
cheers Bruce
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, Elisabetta del Re wrote:
Dear FreeSurfer team,we are running FreeSurfer on 1.5T cases. For a few of them we get error messages that I am attaching. Mostly the message error relates to excessive topological defect. Any suggestions you can give to us? Thank you, regards, Elisabetta
-- Elisabetta C. del Re, Ph.D. Instructor, Department of Psychiatry Harvard Medical School phone 617 9675569 mail elisabetta_delre@hms.harvard.edu
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Hi Elisabetta
can you describe what you did in this case? I'm puzzled because the brain.finalsurfs.mgz and the wm.mgz both contain skull in them and don't like they have been skull stripped at all, but the brainmask.auto.mgz (which is the output of our skull stripping) looks like it worked well (that is, brainmask.auto.mgz doesn't have any skull in it). Despite this things seem to have gone ok. To visualize the defects load the rh or lh.inflated.nofix surface as:
freeview -f lh.inflated.nofix:overlay=lh.defect_labels:overlay_threshold=1,120
then click the "3D" button to show the surface. This will show you every defect as a different color. You can click on them then find where they are in the volume to fix them if you need to (that is, also load the brain.finasurfs.mgz and the wm.mgz and edit the wm.mgz or add control points).
In this case though it seems that the skull stripping worked, but you somehow reintroduced the unstripped volume back into the pipeline
cheers Bruce
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015, Elisabetta del Re wrote:
Hi Bruce, thank you so much. I attach here T1 of 2 of the cases. Thank you again, regards, Elisabetta
On 11/4/15, Bruce Fischl fischl@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
Hi Elisabetta
I don't think that's an error, just a warning. That said, a defect with 38K vertices is awfully big, almost 1/4 of the surface, which usually means
something big is wrong (e.g. cerebellum or skull attached to the hemi). Can
you look at the orig.nofix or the inflated.nofix and see what is wrong? If you upload one of the subjects I'll take a look
cheers Bruce
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, Elisabetta del Re wrote:
Dear FreeSurfer team,we are running FreeSurfer on 1.5T cases. For a few of them we get error messages that I am attaching. Mostly the message error relates to excessive topological defect. Any suggestions you can give to us? Thank you, regards, Elisabetta
-- Elisabetta C. del Re, Ph.D. Instructor, Department of Psychiatry Harvard Medical School phone 617 9675569 mail elisabetta_delre@hms.harvard.edu
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